Super 70s - second look

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Re: Super 70s - second look

Post by Tone Slinger » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:59 pm

alnico8 which is pretty close to ceramic I've been told. The Super70's are pretty low output,like around 8k I think. I find that lower output pu's fare better in set neck, 24 3/4 scale instruments (Gibson for ex.), cause these inherently have a tone characteristic that is warmer, fatter and has less high end. The weaker pu can give chime and detail to them.

On 25 1/2 scale instruments (Fender for ex.) , you get more 'throw' to the sound.The tone is inherently brighter and dynamic. Putting a weaker pu in one of these can make these characteristics TOO prominent . A higher output pu introduces more mids and bottom.These are my observations using a Metro 12xxx. New hi gain,push/pull eq boost, etc amps, can pretty much give ANY pu type what it needs to sound as the player wants though.
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Re: Super 70s - second look

Post by YMI5150? » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:32 pm

I believe 8k-ish and A8. Assume the magnet to be degaussed by now.

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Re: Super 70s - second look

Post by GilmourD » Tue Oct 15, 2013 11:17 pm

FYI, the guys over at the Seymour Duncan forum have said that swapping an alnico 8 magnet into a '59 will get you pretty close to a Super 70.

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Re: Super 70s - second look

Post by MrBeasty » Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:26 pm

efraser68 wrote:... Don't think we've heard clips of the SH-5 that were head turning (that I can remember).
IMHO, the SH-5 has to be one of the most boring, un-happening pick-up out there. I have a modern one and a "vintage" one.
I am yet to try the vintage one ( :palm: :whistle: :what: ) but the modern one is dark, dull and without breadth.

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Re: Super 70s - second look

Post by jnew » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:01 am

Here's a couple of clips with the Duncan Custom (SH-5) I think it's pretty bad ass myself. :what:

http://forum.metroamp.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=42717" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Super 70s - second look

Post by stef » Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:46 pm

MrBeasty wrote:
efraser68 wrote:... Don't think we've heard clips of the SH-5 that were head turning (that I can remember).
IMHO, the SH-5 has to be one of the most boring, un-happening pick-up out there. I have a modern one and a "vintage" one.
I am yet to try the vintage one ( :palm: :whistle: :what: ) but the modern one is dark, dull and without breadth.
Jnew has a interesting new topic about the Sh5. What does it (SH5) have to do with this thread :what:
Efraser posted that after my comment about the super70 clip and pots etc. For the record I'm not a SH5 user (for the time being), but I own one and did not like it that much in my guitar the last time I tried it.

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Re: Super 70s - second look

Post by jnew » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:33 pm

stef wrote:
MrBeasty wrote:
efraser68 wrote:... Don't think we've heard clips of the SH-5 that were head turning (that I can remember).
IMHO, the SH-5 has to be one of the most boring, un-happening pick-up out there. I have a modern one and a "vintage" one.
I am yet to try the vintage one ( :palm: :whistle: :what: ) but the modern one is dark, dull and without breadth.
Jnew has a interesting new topic about the Sh5. What does it (SH5) have to do with this thread :what:
Efraser posted that after my comment about the super70 clip and pots etc. For the record I'm not a SH5 user (for the time being), but I own one and did not like it that much in my guitar the last time I tried it.
Sorry, I didn't mean to de-rail the thread on Super 70's. Just looked like a couple of sidetracks toward the SH-5 and since I'm fresh with a new one in my guitar, I was just chiming in. No offense intended. 8)
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Re: Super 70s - second look

Post by JimiJames » Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:18 pm

efraser68 wrote:"...Don't think we've heard clips of the SH-5 that were head turning (that I can remember).
I did this in a soundcheck a while back with an SH-5 :

("High-heeled Missy")
http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... 87555&q=hi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Super 70s - second look

Post by mightymike » Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:29 pm

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Re: Super 70s - second look

Post by jnew » Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:33 pm

Hard to really hear on stupid iPhone but it sounds pretty mean. Will give it a really good listen on home system. There has to be a real good reason Ed wasn't cool with it being advertised as the VH pickup? :what: Perhaps the so called PAF rewound? And screw/slug arrangement pictured on VHI? :what:
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Re: Super 70s - second look

Post by vanhalen5150 » Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:29 pm

So the Super 70 is same as Maxon U-1000. The U-2000 is with an A5. So slip in a C8 into the U-2000.
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Re: Super 70s - second look

Post by stef » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:38 pm

jnew wrote:
Sorry, I didn't mean to de-rail the thread on Super 70's. Just looked like a couple of sidetracks toward the SH-5 and since I'm fresh with a new one in my guitar, I was just chiming in. No offense intended. 8)
James, my post was not intended to you :peace: . Efraser posted something about the SH5 at the very beginning of this thread right after my post :what:

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Re: Super 70s - second look

Post by JimiJames » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:51 pm

stef wrote:
jnew wrote:
Sorry, I didn't mean to de-rail the thread on Super 70's. Just looked like a couple of sidetracks toward the SH-5 and since I'm fresh with a new one in my guitar, I was just chiming in. No offense intended. 8)
James, my post was not intended to you :peace: . Efraser posted something about the SH5 at the very beginning of this thread right after my post :what:
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YMI5150? wrote:pretty caught up on my projects but decided to do a pup swap on my b&w franky. it had a custom custom and sat for months. just never moved me tonewise. i threw a super 70s back in and holy crap. that coupled with the EP 3 pedal is money.

see if this link works:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uepspxayxafmu ... 20Test.wav" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
efraser68 wrote:The Super 70 sounds like it has great mids and not too much gain or hair. Don't think we've heard clips of the SH-5 that were head turning (that I can remember).
:what:
another SH-5 (VH) demo
http://soundcloud.com/user5906127/sh-5-demo-vh" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

& jnew's clip's sounded good too. (mid's in the tone sound stellar :wink: )

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Re: Super 70s - second look

Post by JimiJames » Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:17 pm

mightymike wrote::thumbsup:
thanks pal.


YMI5150?, I would like to scout one of these out... Is there an average ohm reading ?
I see there are different font engravings on the backplate, does it matter ?
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Re: Super 70s - second look

Post by JimiJames » Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:52 pm

GilmourD wrote:FYI, the guys over at the Seymour Duncan forum have said that swapping an alnico 8 magnet into a '59 will get you pretty close to a Super 70.
interesting. Would the wire gauge's be the same ?
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