Super 70s - second look
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alnico8 which is pretty close to ceramic I've been told. The Super70's are pretty low output,like around 8k I think. I find that lower output pu's fare better in set neck, 24 3/4 scale instruments (Gibson for ex.), cause these inherently have a tone characteristic that is warmer, fatter and has less high end. The weaker pu can give chime and detail to them.
On 25 1/2 scale instruments (Fender for ex.) , you get more 'throw' to the sound.The tone is inherently brighter and dynamic. Putting a weaker pu in one of these can make these characteristics TOO prominent . A higher output pu introduces more mids and bottom.These are my observations using a Metro 12xxx. New hi gain,push/pull eq boost, etc amps, can pretty much give ANY pu type what it needs to sound as the player wants though.
On 25 1/2 scale instruments (Fender for ex.) , you get more 'throw' to the sound.The tone is inherently brighter and dynamic. Putting a weaker pu in one of these can make these characteristics TOO prominent . A higher output pu introduces more mids and bottom.These are my observations using a Metro 12xxx. New hi gain,push/pull eq boost, etc amps, can pretty much give ANY pu type what it needs to sound as the player wants though.
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I believe 8k-ish and A8. Assume the magnet to be degaussed by now.
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FYI, the guys over at the Seymour Duncan forum have said that swapping an alnico 8 magnet into a '59 will get you pretty close to a Super 70.
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IMHO, the SH-5 has to be one of the most boring, un-happening pick-up out there. I have a modern one and a "vintage" one.efraser68 wrote:... Don't think we've heard clips of the SH-5 that were head turning (that I can remember).
I am yet to try the vintage one (



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Here's a couple of clips with the Duncan Custom (SH-5) I think it's pretty bad ass myself.
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Jnew has a interesting new topic about the Sh5. What does it (SH5) have to do with this threadMrBeasty wrote:IMHO, the SH-5 has to be one of the most boring, un-happening pick-up out there. I have a modern one and a "vintage" one.efraser68 wrote:... Don't think we've heard clips of the SH-5 that were head turning (that I can remember).
I am yet to try the vintage one (![]()
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Efraser posted that after my comment about the super70 clip and pots etc. For the record I'm not a SH5 user (for the time being), but I own one and did not like it that much in my guitar the last time I tried it.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to de-rail the thread on Super 70's. Just looked like a couple of sidetracks toward the SH-5 and since I'm fresh with a new one in my guitar, I was just chiming in. No offense intended.stef wrote:Jnew has a interesting new topic about the Sh5. What does it (SH5) have to do with this threadMrBeasty wrote:IMHO, the SH-5 has to be one of the most boring, un-happening pick-up out there. I have a modern one and a "vintage" one.efraser68 wrote:... Don't think we've heard clips of the SH-5 that were head turning (that I can remember).
I am yet to try the vintage one (![]()
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Efraser posted that after my comment about the super70 clip and pots etc. For the record I'm not a SH5 user (for the time being), but I own one and did not like it that much in my guitar the last time I tried it.

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I did this in a soundcheck a while back with an SH-5 :efraser68 wrote:"...Don't think we've heard clips of the SH-5 that were head turning (that I can remember).
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Hard to really hear on stupid iPhone but it sounds pretty mean. Will give it a really good listen on home system. There has to be a real good reason Ed wasn't cool with it being advertised as the VH pickup?
Perhaps the so called PAF rewound? And screw/slug arrangement pictured on VHI? 


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So the Super 70 is same as Maxon U-1000. The U-2000 is with an A5. So slip in a C8 into the U-2000.
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James, my post was not intended to youjnew wrote:
Sorry, I didn't mean to de-rail the thread on Super 70's. Just looked like a couple of sidetracks toward the SH-5 and since I'm fresh with a new one in my guitar, I was just chiming in. No offense intended.


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_________________________________________________________________________________________________________stef wrote:James, my post was not intended to youjnew wrote:
Sorry, I didn't mean to de-rail the thread on Super 70's. Just looked like a couple of sidetracks toward the SH-5 and since I'm fresh with a new one in my guitar, I was just chiming in. No offense intended.. Efraser posted something about the SH5 at the very beginning of this thread right after my post
YMI5150? wrote:pretty caught up on my projects but decided to do a pup swap on my b&w franky. it had a custom custom and sat for months. just never moved me tonewise. i threw a super 70s back in and holy crap. that coupled with the EP 3 pedal is money.
see if this link works:
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efraser68 wrote:The Super 70 sounds like it has great mids and not too much gain or hair. Don't think we've heard clips of the SH-5 that were head turning (that I can remember).

another SH-5 (VH) demo
http://soundcloud.com/user5906127/sh-5-demo-vh" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
& jnew's clip's sounded good too. (mid's in the tone sound stellar

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thanks pal.mightymike wrote:
YMI5150?, I would like to scout one of these out... Is there an average ohm reading ?
I see there are different font engravings on the backplate, does it matter ?

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interesting. Would the wire gauge's be the same ?GilmourD wrote:FYI, the guys over at the Seymour Duncan forum have said that swapping an alnico 8 magnet into a '59 will get you pretty close to a Super 70.