Speaker comparison for EVH tone.

rgalpin · Post by **rgalpin** » Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:25 am

bmf5150 wrote:
adamsapple wrote:Get a load of this comparison. Some guy on the PlexiPalace speaker board re-eq'd and mixed my G12M track. Mine's still too harsh in the high's.

http://www.mp3lizard.com/download.cfm?id=20955
here is my amp with the heritage greenback versus the original VH track.mine has no EQ,just reverb.how much did he EQ your track?it doesnt sound much different than mine!it would be cool to have clip of both the heritage speaker versus the reis speaker for comparison.
http://www.mp3lizard.com/download.cfm?id=18856

edumacation request:
"heritage speaker" - is that the G12H? and does anyone here have actual vintage G12Ms that we could hear a clip of to get a comparison between reissues and the real thing?

whenever i hear the word "reissue" i get queezy thinking about marshall's "plexi-reissues" - uh yeah! i played a couple tracks through a plexi-reissue in the studio and it is what lead me to find george's site, this board, and a whole new world of solder sniffing fun... thanks Marshall! we had a george metro point to point board and a MM OT in that "reissue" quicker than you can say gimme some frickin' tone man!

gnugear · Post by **gnugear** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:01 am

I actually don't have any problems with the RI greenbacks. I'd still like to try the Heritage though. Both clips sound really good.

Bainzy · Post by **Bainzy** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:04 am

RI Greenbacks sound pretty good to my ears - the blackbacks are a bit better but nowhere near as much to warrant calling the reissue G12M's "shit".

bmf5150 · Post by **bmf5150** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:10 am

mine is the heritage g12m

bmf5150 · Post by **bmf5150** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:30 pm

to make it easier for comparing,here is adamsapple reis greenback original clip
http://www.mp3lizard.com/download.cfm?id=20873
here is his clip EQed and mixed..
http://www.mp3lizard.com/download.cfm?id=20955
here is my heritage greenback clip
http://www.mp3lizard.com/download.cfm?id=18856
here is my clip after rgalpin added compression and effects,NO Eq
http://www.funnymoneyband.com/sw/tone/b ... talkin.mp3

master keeper · Post by **master keeper** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:00 am

IMO the RI greenbacks sound about "right" for a greenback. The differnce is in the highend which is much more pronounced in the RIs (this may be a great thing if that's what you're after). This may be due to the fact that they are new and not properly broken in. Give them 10 years and they may sound just as good as any old speaker!

Bainzy · Post by **Bainzy** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:25 am

I thought that - listen to Ralle's reissue G12M's - he's had them well over 10 years and they sound really great.

bmf5150 · Post by **bmf5150** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:44 am

i hear a difference in mids as well if you listen to both speakers clips with nothing done.to me me the heritage is warmer with more of a low mid and the reis is brighter with more upper mids.thats just my opinion.almost sounds like they based the reis speaker off of the later rola speakers and the heritage off of the pre rola.

Bainzy · Post by **Bainzy** » Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:05 am

I agree - the reissues are very close to my Rola G12M's - much closer than they are to pre-rola's.

mightymike · Post by **mightymike** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:17 am

I used a 4 to 5 year old 1960ax with g12m reissues in my sound clips. If I understand what you guys are saying, would you consider them pretty close to Black Back g12m.

What about the Chineese g12m,do they sound like the English made g12m Reissues?

908ssp · Post by **908ssp** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:13 am

A friend of mine and I who plays EVH much better then I do tested four 4x12 cabs last night. One pre-rola Greenback, one Blackback, one pre-rola H cab and one Scumbag cab. and we concluded that each one sounded great with a different song.

rgalpin · Post by **rgalpin** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:41 am

well that settles it!

Bainzy · Post by **Bainzy** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:26 am

mightymike wrote:What about the Chineese g12m,do they sound like the English made g12m Reissues?

I don't think theres any difference at all.

gnugear · Post by **gnugear** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:06 pm

908ssp wrote:A friend of mine and I who plays EVH much better then I do tested four 4x12 cabs last night. One pre-rola Greenback, one Blackback, one pre-rola H cab and one Scumbag cab. and we concluded that each one sounded great with a different song.

That's what I noticed too. My blackback 55hz G12H30 cab is better for Fair Warning / Meanstreets type tone. My pulsonic Greenback cab is better for VH1/VHII ... and my blackback 55hz G12M cab falls somewhere in between. My straight up '73 Superlead definitely does VHII better than my '68 spec'd '74 Superlead.

Bottome line is you need a multi amp/cab setup! More Marshalls!!

bmf5150 · Post by **bmf5150** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:02 pm

chris,which is your 12 series super lead amp?74 or 73?