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guitar007 · Post by **guitar007** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:36 pm

It would also be cool if you could add a clip with no variacs, then one on the head, and finally one between the head n cab to really highlight the impact of the variacs compared to a straight set up.

Strat78 · Post by **Strat78** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:32 am

I could just climb inside that tone and ride it all the way home, great choice of songs too. The question is, now that THE TONE has been produced here, where are you going to find enough goo to hide this set up from prying eyes!?!?

Maybe you could just dip the whole rig in a large vat of black silicone, not pretty but effective.

That's what we are all about here, the sneaky, tricksy, falls little hobbetses that we are.

jnew · Post by **jnew** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:11 am

Yeah, or maybe a big giant hut out of plywood, with casters and a big canvas and zipper to uncover the grille cloth when it's time to play.

What I really like about this effect is the fuzzy crackle sound. I read somewhere, a long time ago, that Ed described it as the sound that happens when you turn off the amp while still playing as the amp powers down. It gets hairy sounding. I think the first variac does that starved voltage thing and warms it up and changes compression. The 2nd variac exaggerates this effect and the WACF tone is what I hear most in this effect.

guitar007, probably won't do a clip without a variac but all the clips I've posted over the years were with one variac. Only these latest two, have been 2 variacs.

rgalpin · Post by **rgalpin** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:49 am

jnew wrote:...What I really like about this effect is the fuzzy crackle sound. I read somewhere, a long time ago, that Ed described it as the sound that happens when you turn off the amp while still playing as the amp powers down...

The Alka-Seltzer effect.

boiling hot metal foil ribbon sizzling like alka-seltzer...

Star*Guitar · Post by **Star*Guitar** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:58 am

I've got nothing to say but, Awesome!!!!!!!!!! This makes sense with those pics we saw with two variac's. James you now have the best tone on the planet!

JimiJames · Post by **JimiJames** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:19 am

guitar007 wrote:It would also be cool if you could add a clip with no variacs, then one on the head, and finally one between the head n cab to really highlight the impact of the variacs compared to a straight set up.

yea, yea. & what is the gauge speaker wire and how are they wired ?

jape88 · Post by **jape88** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:27 am

jnew wrote:What I really like about this effect is the fuzzy crackle sound.

This is exactly what excited me when I heard your first clips, it's something I don't hear with regular 12series builds possibly with the exception of Ralles set up albeit a tad tonally different, I always thought it was something with his cab that added that sizzle?

Thanks James for the experiments and answering the Q's

Strat78 · Post by **Strat78** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:45 am

Actually, I think James has a hidden pickup inside the second variac all hidden inside a third varaic a la a turducken so to speak.

rgalpin · Post by **rgalpin** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:33 am

I know that my brain is indeed that of an 8th grader when I look upon that presentation Strat78.

guitar007 · Post by **guitar007** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:38 am

Damnit. I have 2 Ohmite VTs. I'm going to try it tonight!

jnew · Post by **jnew** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:32 pm

Best tone on the planet?

I don't know about that, given present company of course, but that is one awesome compliment. Thank you.

Actually not sure what gauge the speaker wire is but probably 16 gauge.

Alia-Seltzer effect. Good one. That's what I'll use from now on.

That pic is so porn.

jnew · Post by **jnew** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:48 pm

BTW, me thinks the 6 band pushes out some of Alka-Seltzer effect. Just a little push is all I had going. I'm trying post a pic of the EQ but a message tells me the board quota has been reached, or something like that.

Star*Guitar · Post by **Star*Guitar** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:36 pm

jnew wrote:BTW, me thinks the 6 band pushes out some of Alka-Seltzer effect. Just a little push is all I had going. I'm trying post a pic of the EQ but a message tells me the board quota has been reached, or something like that.

The board quota just means you used up all your allocated space. You have two choices to fix that. 1. Erase some of your previously posted pics or ..2. Post a url to pics you posted on another hosting site like Photobucket.

jnew · Post by **jnew** » Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:19 pm

image.jpeg: (1.48 MiB) Not downloaded yet

Cool. So I just went back and removed the variac pic.

Thanks for the tip Star*Guitar.

Star*Guitar · Post by **Star*Guitar** » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:21 am

Interesting, That is almost a flat profile. I expected more of a boost on the low end on the MXR when you said you used it to thump things up a bit.

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