Fryette's new load/reamping device

[mapat]

Which leaves me to wonder why they are claiming it does W/D/W?

Fryette isn't claiming that it does W/D/W.

From the Fryette website:

Power Station can also perform as:

• An effects power amp for Wet/Dry amp rig.

[garbeaj]

Ok, I guess I must have followed a link that was not from the company which said both Wet-Dry and Wet-Dry-Wet...the official Fryette site did not claim W/D/W.

[echoplexi1974]

Any new reviews on this guy? Maybe I should just go out and buy one.

Like it's going to sound bad right!

[garbeaj]

Which leaves me to wonder why they are claiming it does W/D/W?

Fryette isn't claiming that it does W/D/W.

From the Fryette website:

Power Station can also perform as:

• An effects power amp for Wet/Dry amp rig.

This makes me wonder...what is the difference in using a power amp for a Wet/Dry rig versus using a Line-Out box like my David Bray L/O box? Doesn't it achieve the same effect?

[Blix]

Which leaves me to wonder why they are claiming it does W/D/W?

Fryette isn't claiming that it does W/D/W.

From the Fryette website:

Power Station can also perform as:

• An effects power amp for Wet/Dry amp rig.

This makes me wonder...what is the difference in using a power amp for a Wet/Dry rig versus using a Line-Out box like my David Bray L/O box? Doesn't it achieve the same effect?

Your question is a bit unclear


But if you use an amp with a good master volume you can have it plugged into a cab and the Fryette PS at the same time, making for a quite compact w/d solution..

[dirtycooter]

Think of it like this
its a stand alone power amp
OR
its a loadbox attenuator with a power amp to re-amp the loaded head essentially

It is either one of those two things but cannot really be both at once. You have to choose.

And to really confuse you this box has a line out as well

[echoplexi1974]

I am interested in it because it is so compact and that it is a load and power amp in one.

Damn, I just bought a Matrix GT1600fx a couple of months ago. That thing sounds great but I have to use a Rivera Rockcrusher to load the amp down and line out of it into the Matrix. This box would do all of that in a nice convenient package!

[garbeaj]

I don't really get what one gets by getting this versus a Line-Out box with two amps.

[dirtycooter]

You do kinda arrive at Vic, Jnew, or a few other guys "re-amping" techniques.
This box is a reactive total load but reamps with a tube power section.
Using a tube power section to reamp vs a SS power amp is two different things.
Tubes will not reproduce so cleanly-maybe add those natural overtones, harmonic content, feel, and overall enhancing the main tone. Then you also have the resonance and presence controls to shape things on top and bottom (a place where attenuators sometimes suffer even if they are indeed reactive loads).
A matrix on the other hand-reproduces exactly what it is fed. There is relatively zero tonal enhancement-what it sees is what you get. A reactive load woulda done wonders when I tried this with reamping the with my matrix.
I had a total caveman resistive load but overall it worked pretty well although the purely static resistive load sterilized my tone somewhat from how my head ran normally. It changed how my heads power section reacted as it woulda normally with a varying impedence load like my speaker cab would and it loses that dynamic at a static load. Changing the overall tone. It wasn't the matrix in the equation but more so my main heads reaction to a purely resistive load and the matrix just translated exactly that picture. With the matrix adding nothing or not taking anything from THAT sound.
So with the power station your getting reactive load (not a static load) and a tube power section-which replaces and puts back the whole process to sound more natural in the end. At any volume.
Ed chose mosfet HH's because mosfets act like tubes while regular power amps like it just throw power out there and don't or aren't able to react resistively with guitar speakers impedence curves.
So 95/98% of the issue is with having a "reactive load " really and a power amp that follows and tracks impedence changes. Then you have two choices-mosfets in a certain amp class or tubes.

Is the matrix a waste? Heck no! Once you have your main tone with the head alone or attenuated and reamped you can now expand that with out anything added. It cleanly exactly reproduces what you feed it and allows you to expand it uncolored in stereo for stereo fx.

[garbeaj]

I know this is the type of thing that I'll just have to try out because I can't really conceptualize what these various things do. As most of you know, I don't fix or mod my gear and I'm just a plug-it-in-and-play kind've guy. I've been really happy with using two amps and my Bray Line-Out box, but I'm unsure if it sounds as good to an audience as it sounds when I'm standing in front of my setup and playing...

[mapat]

I know this is the type of thing that I'll just have to try out because I can't really conceptualize what these various things do. As most of you know, I don't fix or mod my gear and I'm just a plug-it-in-and-play kind've guy. I've been really happy with using two amps and my Bray Line-Out box, but I'm unsure if it sounds as good to an audience as it sounds when I'm standing in front of my setup and playing...

How do you use your Line-Out box? Do you set it up the way Dave instructs, ie, having the Line-Out signal going into an effects unit set completely wet and then into either a power amp or regular amp?

If you do, then the way you would use Fryette's device would be that the Power Station would take the place of the power amp you are using now, it would be used to amplify the effected ( wet ) signal.

[garbeaj]

I know this is the type of thing that I'll just have to try out because I can't really conceptualize what these various things do. As most of you know, I don't fix or mod my gear and I'm just a plug-it-in-and-play kind've guy. I've been really happy with using two amps and my Bray Line-Out box, but I'm unsure if it sounds as good to an audience as it sounds when I'm standing in front of my setup and playing...

How do you use your Line-Out box? Do you set it up the way Dave instructs, ie, having the Line-Out signal going into an effects unit set completely wet and then into either a power amp or regular amp?

If you do, then the way you would use Fryette's device would be that the Power Station would take the place of the power amp you are using now, it would be used to amplify the effected ( wet ) signal.

Actually I follow the instructions but I don't use an effect unit. I just use my Rockstah Marshall 2x12 combo with the L/O box going out to my '65 Fender Super Reverb. I use the Spring reverb from the Super Reverb and I try to mix the levels of the two amps to create my own half-assed facsimile of the first album tones. As I say, it sounds pretty good to my ears as I'm playing, but whether it sounds as good to someone listening to me in an audience is another matter. I guess it is really down to mic'ing both amps and using a mixer to get the sounds dialed in?

I would like to try for later VH tones with an Eventide H9 and going Wet/Dry with the detuned Harmonizer...but I'm sure I'll need to mic each amp and use a mixer to get that right for an audience anyway? I'm talking a very small, 40 person club?

[dirtycooter]

When experimenting with digital fx just keep in mind-if the wet side is not 100% effect and no dry and you want some dry in the wet cab-always use an analog mixer and a true analog form of the dry tone.
Or you will get the effects of "latency". Which is the amount of time it takes your analog to digital converters to convert your signal to digital then back again as it leaves your processor. A 1/4 second late digital converted dry tone running next to real time true unconverted dry will sound like aaaassssssssssssss. Just a heads up.
A delay box like the strymon guys offer has a built in true analog mixer stage but its max mix is 50/50. In a wet cab you will want more toward a 70fx/30dry kinda thing because you already have your majority of dry in the dry cab present. Thus making the purchis of a mixer ever more definite. Just some tips

[garbeaj]

This all goes over my head. The only thing I can comprehend is trying all this stuff out in real life. I guess I could go to Guitar Center and try all this shit with my rig and a knowledgeable salesperson to guide me through all these scenarios.

[Star*Guitar]

This all goes over my head. The only thing I can comprehend is trying all this stuff out in real life. I guess I could go to Guitar Center and try all this shit with my rig and a knowledgeable salesperson to guide me through all these scenarios.

Hahahahahahahaha.... "A knowledgeable salesperson at Guitar Center?????????!!!!!!!" That's a good one!!!