ok so which set of transformers gets evh?

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Post by rockstah » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:10 pm

VelvetGeorge wrote:Mark, you're right the dual voltage PT is 2.5" I have Heyboer working on a 2" stack version. Still some refining to do.

Aren't the originals 2"?

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good question i thought they were 1 1/2 - they look 1 1/2
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does that look like 1.5 or 2?

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Post by Billy Batz » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:14 pm

2"

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Post by rockstah » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:15 pm

Billy Batz wrote:2"
did i get the wrong PT? OH SHIT! :)

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Post by Billy Batz » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:21 pm

Well what did you want? I think youll be fine. You wanted one that could drop the voltage without using a variac right?

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Post by rockstah » Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:27 pm

Billy Batz wrote:Well what did you want? I think youll be fine. You wanted one that could drop the voltage without using a variac right?
dont get me wrong im happy with what i chose -i just realized its not coesmetically like ed's... but its my first marshall build./
i plan building a couple more ;)

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Post by Billy Batz » Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:22 pm

Nice. More is good

Youll be lucky if you ever run into one person who can look at your amp and knows enough to go 'hey... Your PT is .5" higher then Eddies! I thought you said this fucking thing was the magic man!!'

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Post by rockstah » Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:35 pm

Billy Batz wrote:Nice. More is good

Youll be lucky if you ever run into one person who can look at your amp and knows enough to go 'hey... Your PT is .5" higher then Eddies! I thought you said this fucking thing was the magic man!!'
yeah i hear ya - except the people around here ;)

anyway, i will pick perhaps a jtm100 and make it be a stock relic. I dont care so much what this amp looks like. infact this amp will go through many changes, tweeks, mods, variations.
Its my firstt amp from scratch!

im just interested in the tone from the trannys - have come to the conclusion that transformers is ATLEAST half of the amp. The rest is tweeks in the circuit/speakers

OT = O100JM-SL 100 watt Plexi
Choke = MAR100-C 3H 200mA -- 100 watt
PT = Georges 2.5 Laydown Dual Tap 400v/500v

cant wait to hear these babies!

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Post by Guest » Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:46 pm

5150loveeddie wrote:
bmf5150 wrote:i agree with vhoholic! either get real vintage dagnall or get the merc.
Sorry but I don't agree at all MMs are not it, George's 1.5" is MUCH better but ******'s are dead on, he's exacly dead on the Original Dagnall, with the proper speakers that is the tranny you need, Ed didn't use MM didn't he?

so:
1)****** audio
2)Heyboers (metro version 1.5")
3)MM
i have owned the ****** tranny and recently got ahold of an original self lead dagnall.cerems tranny is not even close to the dagnal i own.just my opinion.
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Post by Flames1950 » Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:53 pm

Anyway, back to how much older some of you are than I am......I was feeling a little long in the tooth but I guess I'm just a whippersnapper at 35....... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by rockstah » Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:58 pm

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5150loveeddie wrote:
bmf5150 wrote:i agree with vhoholic! either get real vintage dagnall or get the merc.
Sorry but I don't agree at all MMs are not it, George's 1.5" is MUCH better but ******'s are dead on, he's exacly dead on the Original Dagnall, with the proper speakers that is the tranny you need, Ed didn't use MM didn't he?

so:
1)****** audio
2)Heyboers (metro version 1.5")
3)MM
i have owned the ****** tranny and recently got ahold of an original self lead dagnall.cerems tranny is not even close to the dagnal i own.just my opinion.
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Stan,
Not even close? for sake of argument and some good input here.
ill say this... i would think this guy would be the shit!
I mean have you read some of his posts? including him seeing eds amp, all the amps he himself has and has played, to making trannys?
it is wild to read you say that and yet it is appreciated cause i know you have heard/felt/played his as well as MM stuff.
you have to realize i have read alot that people say "his trannys are the shit for evh"!
Interesting indeed :)

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Post by bmf5150 » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:15 pm

first off ,before i open a can of worms,the merc is no closer to my original dagnal than is the ****** tranny.its just different,its voiced more for the VH sound than the ******.i found the ****** tranny to be darker than my original dagnal and differenet in the mids.i wont say anything bad about ****** he knows more about electronics than i ever will,but i trust my ears to form my opinions!
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Post by rockstah » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:51 pm

i hear ya and appreciate your ears here :)

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Post by 5150loveeddie » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:53 pm

Just a/b two ORIGINAL Dagnalls (in the same amp...etc...) and you won't find two exactly the same, they all have there own little colors and flavors to them, so it's all about what you prefer........... You could ASK Chris ****** (aka ******) to finetune your tranny with a little more distortion or little less sag in it or what ever if you desire, he will do anything he wants with them, he controls and understand PERFECTLY every little fuckin details about them, just look at MM's screws (in the steal) there not at the right position, even Heyboer doesn't place those screws in the proper position, there are suppose to be in the middle of the steal...not at the corners, check all original Dagnall/Drake they all have those screws in the middle, so ****** doesn't care he just reproduce it that way, and it affect the flux on top of that,.......now if you DON'T ask him anything he will just reproduce the damn fucking tranny with the same exact way material/specifications/even the red sharpie on the bolts that those irons had "in general" at that time, I just prefer ******'s and George's first, MM is the last on my list..........but hey I might smoke to much grass so......
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Post by rockstah » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:56 pm

5150loveeddie wrote:Just a/b two ORIGINAL Dagnalls (in the same amp...etc...) and you won't find two exactly the same, they all have there own little colors and flavors to them, so it's all about what you prefer........... You could ASK Chris ****** (aka ******) to finetune your tranny with a little more distortion or little less sag in it or what ever if you desire, he will do anything he wants with them, he controls and understand PERFECTLY every little fuckin details about them, just look at MM's screws (in the steal) there not at the right position, even Heyboer doesn't place those screws in the proper position, there are suppose to be in the middle of the steal...not at the corners, check all original Dagnall/Drake they all have those screws in the middle, so ****** doesn't care he just reproduce it that way, and it affect the flux on top of that,.......now if you DON'T ask him anything he will just reproduce the damn fucking tranny with the same exact way material/specifications/even the red sharpie on the bolts that those irons had "in general" at that time, I just prefer ******'s and George's first, MM is the last on my list..........but hey I might smoke to much grass so......
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Post by rockstah » Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:57 pm

i love it to completely different takes on the subject.

Stan -i would be curious to know which circuit you are using cap sozos, mustards ect

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