DOD 250 GREY SPEC MODS

[outlier]

Wow, thank you for the kind words.

[Coot Boy]

outlier's mod on the YJM308 is the best, I love mine. I purchased two from him, I have an extra new one if anyone is interested.

Sold, can't wait to hear it.

[donbarzini]

outlier's mod on the YJM308 is the best, I love mine. I purchased two from him, I have an extra new one if anyone is interested.

Sold, can't wait to hear it.

coming soon mate!

[Coot Boy]

Got the pedal today, didn't like it at all with a humbucker but the SSS strat was real good. No bass loss and the drive is beautiful, not harsh, reeaaallll smooth. Cheers.

[yngwie308]

John (Outlier's) YJM308/DOD250 pedal is world class, as I stated before, it totally woke up the pedal and gave it a superb tone and the gain increase, is just what it needed.
To be frank, I have never been completely happy with my tone, on big Marshalls, past or present, except my original 10000 series back in the day in London.
That I end up playing my modded Crate Vintage Club 30 watt combo more, is testament to a look in new directions.
I have absolutely no idea where to go in the future, other than some Scumback loaded cabs.
Since I have such electrical interference issues in my new construction house, it has put a damper on my amp experimentation, but I have worked on my playing in the mean time.
That John's pedal is a keeper, there is no doubt. If a guitar like the Trower signature Strat, really has a 7.25" radius, placing HS-3's in the neck and bridge, with perhaps say a Quarter Pounder in the mid position, this would be a start for my ideal Strat..
yngwie308

[Coot Boy]

Hey yngwie308, I could have or maybe should have gone on a bit more about the pedal, I've bought n sold a lot of pedals over the years, then I gave up on them altogether, then I went back to pedals again, I think this modded 308 will be a keeper, it's by far the best O/D type pedal I've tried from clean boost to a bit of hair, it really retains all the original tone I reckon and then just gives you more, exactly what I look for in a mild booster, I'm not into distortion pedals at all but a good O/D or clean booster is pretty much manditory for most players I hazard a guess, so this one is really good. As far as speakers go, I have a quad of pre rolas so I guess I'm spoilt, I've never heard the scummies but I reckon at least a pair of them would not be a bad idea at all, speakers are very important IMHO, I have two 100 watt Marshall clones that I built, a JTM 50 clone, a JTM 45 with 2203 pre amp and a Tweed Deluxe type thing with 4 x 6v6s, I usually prefer the 4 x 6v6 amp ( it's really just a great mini Marshall tonewise ) but any of them will give you a chubby on any given day
I wind my own pickups, I made a noiseless set of strat ones that are low output just like the HS-3s, those pickups really go great with some push but sound nothing like real singles. I make my own strats as well, I have 8 of them and they all sound great, in the end, where to go next, well a good shot of inspiration usually works wonders for your tone as it will make you play better which usually equates to better tone as well, I have to fight boredom all the time, I buy new shit all the time but in the end it all comes back to playing, I reckon.
Anyway, John's modded 308 sure is a great pedal, just not for humbuckers is my opinion.
Thanks go out from me to you for the heads up on the 308.

[outlier]

Thanks again, guys!

About using it with humbuckers, I can see this in some cases. What do on my own at times is use a modified 308 with the 308 spec .001 input capacitor. Works better for me. And actually, I think I like that value for Strats better too, but that's just me and I think a lot won't agree.

[donbarzini]

Anyway, John's modded 308 sure is a great pedal, just not for humbuckers is my opinion.

none of the 250 variants I've tried work well with humbuckers, the 250 gives a single coil some fatness that a humbucker already has.

[outlier]

That's one reason I go with the .001 input cap on one of my own. Again, I like that input cap for Strats too and I feel like I understand why Yngwie went with it.

Almost everyone else wants the 250 spec .01 cap instead, so that's what I do.

I've tried a few other input caps such as .0022 but that was a few years ago. I ought to try something like .0047 to hear what that sounds like...

[Coot Boy]

Well I hooked up a switch so I can toggle between .01 and .001. The .001 suits my taste better for hummers and singles. I think the .01 should probably go and be replaced with a .0047. There's just too much bass for my liking with the .01
While I still think it's a great pedal, I have other pedals that do a similar thing so I don't really need this one. If anyone wants it you can pm me. It's brand new in box.

[Kapo_Polenton]

That was my inclination as well... i thought it was perfect for single coils (giving them more beef) but too fat for humbuckers. Outlier did my board with a .001 and mucho better. I still think it is best with single coils though. I'd love to build a blackmore ish strat with a rosewood finger board,coot boy, what do your builds end up costing you start to finish?

[yngwie308]

Agreed that HB's aren't the best match for the DOD 250 in any spec..it is specifically tuned to single coils or stacked single coils in the case of the DiMarzio HS-3's and YJM's..
Still the best pedal grey 250 or Outlier YJM308 for the Malmsteen/Blackmore/Uli type tones and absolutely required for early spec Malmsteen tones..
yngwie308

[outlier]

Thanks again. Was just out at the last NAMM show, which was kind of low key. A lot of very prominent manufacturers did not display. It's almost a Who's Who of Music Industry Manufacturers...

Regardless, I am thinking of displaying next year. I've had several people urging me to do so, so if I get started now, I should be able to have everything in place next year. As mentioned, I am accumulating parts for a boutique overdrive and have ideas for two other pedals. Hey, what's one more pedal builder, right?

But it could be fun to display and since I live in the area, there's little to no expense involved in travel and accommodations, so I'm seriously thinking about it. Could be fun.

Saw a guy walking around with a Metroamp shirt on, but didn't know if that was George or just a customer...

[Tone Slinger]

Yeah, there can NEVER be TOO many pedal's out there. I love the 'mystique' involved in every builder's version.

The thing is with that old 250 spec is, that if you don't use the larger value cap, you end up with what I would describe as a 'decent', not great, sorta Distortion + sound. Like everyone's stated before, that cap's value, to a very large degree, is what makes that old 250 sound work with single coils. Yngwie sorta got a great hb'erish type thing back then, especially on 'Marching Out'. Granted, there was alot of tht excess 'flop' in that tone. I actually like the Distortion + spec a bit more, though I have been favorig hb'ers more lately as well.

[donbarzini]

I dig the bubbly fatness you get with outlier's 250, only with single coils though, HS-3 and YJM for that matter as well. Certain rhythms though, I'll go to a TS instead of the 250, I think the 250 works best for single note rhythms/solos best.