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Some of the modeling stuff has the effects chain dialed in pretty damn accurate, and with something like Eruption, it makes a big difference, because there's a certain timing on the delay and Phase sweep that is crucial. Years ago, I wrote down the values on an Eruption Patch from the taboo twin, and used that to dial in my effects on my transfex.
I owned a lot of this type of stuff, and it's great until you use it in a band situation, and try to push through the mix. They record great though, on the comp using the spdif. I have some Eruption patches for the Peavey Transtube/Transfex, and for the Cybertwin if anybody wants to try them.
One guy told me once that the "not pushing through the mix" problem is solved by running these modeler amps through the PA. I never got that far. Once I started building building 100 waters I pretty much have been
going dry live. The room filling dynamics are my effects.
One little trick some people do is they'll use a combo modeling amp as a wet cab hidden behind their dry Marshall stack. Dialed in right it doesn't sound half bad, and you can push through the mix. To me it's a novelty, yet fun for short spurts.
Great Playing Mark as allways
I owned a lot of this type of stuff, and it's great until you use it in a band situation, and try to push through the mix. They record great though, on the comp using the spdif. I have some Eruption patches for the Peavey Transtube/Transfex, and for the Cybertwin if anybody wants to try them.
One guy told me once that the "not pushing through the mix" problem is solved by running these modeler amps through the PA. I never got that far. Once I started building building 100 waters I pretty much have been
going dry live. The room filling dynamics are my effects.
One little trick some people do is they'll use a combo modeling amp as a wet cab hidden behind their dry Marshall stack. Dialed in right it doesn't sound half bad, and you can push through the mix. To me it's a novelty, yet fun for short spurts.
Great Playing Mark as allways
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i hear ya mike - my thoughts are once we have effects ( in our pods or whatever) we over use them and thus get lost in the mix- i use the podxt on the road through two marshalls for stereo. i am mic'd on stage through the pa. easy to get lost when ya go effect crazy( verbs and delays) and one always has to hear how they are going to sound in the mix. no verb live for me unless the song has alot of space in it, ie ballads
as far as eruption u r right the effects are crucial. i dont hear delay so much as i hear predelay of verb. when trying to dial that sound in - the chromatic line down before the dive bomb lets you really hear the predelay of the verb... wap( slap) wap( slap)wap ( slap) wap( slap) wap ( slap) whaaaaaaaaaaaa - just make the phaser go as slow as it will go with no feedback mix to taste( 40-50%) - the predelay as i have worked it out is about 253 milisecs;)
happy tapping!
thanks for the post mike!
Mark

happy tapping!
thanks for the post mike!
Mark
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Forgot to say Reverb which is a key ingedient for Eruption.
253 milisecs is pretty close to the value in that Roctron Taboo twin Eruption patch, which I think was
around 270. Come to think of it, it might have been a dual Delay with one side at 270 and another pretty close to 270, maybe 240, lots of Verb, slow phase. It's really fun until about the millionth time you play Eruption.
Back in the 90's when I thought all I needed was the right effects, I ripped patches from all kinds of processing gear, even if I didn't buy it.
I would just get out a piece of paper and write down all the values,right in the music store, then go home and try it with my pedals or with my processing gear.
The only patches that really stood out was the Boston Patch from the
digitech 2112 which is a POS, but the patch was cool.
And the Rocktron Voodoo valve 2 or taboo twin - Eruption patches
I also have a couple books on effects and settings for signature sounds.
253 milisecs is pretty close to the value in that Roctron Taboo twin Eruption patch, which I think was
around 270. Come to think of it, it might have been a dual Delay with one side at 270 and another pretty close to 270, maybe 240, lots of Verb, slow phase. It's really fun until about the millionth time you play Eruption.
Back in the 90's when I thought all I needed was the right effects, I ripped patches from all kinds of processing gear, even if I didn't buy it.
I would just get out a piece of paper and write down all the values,right in the music store, then go home and try it with my pedals or with my processing gear.
The only patches that really stood out was the Boston Patch from the
digitech 2112 which is a POS, but the patch was cool.
And the Rocktron Voodoo valve 2 or taboo twin - Eruption patches
I also have a couple books on effects and settings for signature sounds.
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predelay of 253 mil time 1.7 mix 30% was what i usedmightymike wrote:Forgot to say Reverb which is a key ingedient for Eruption.
253 milisecs is pretty close to the value in that Roctron Taboo twin Eruption patch, which I think was
around 270. Come to think of it, it might have been a dual Delay with one side at 270 and another pretty close to 270, maybe 240, lots of Verb, slow phase. It's really fun until about the millionth time you play Eruption.
Back in the 90's when I thought all I needed was the right effects, I ripped patches from all kinds of processing gear, even if I didn't buy it.
I would just get out a piece of paper and write down all the values,right in the music store, then go home and try it with my pedals or with my processing gear.
The only patches that really stood out was the Boston Patch from the
digitech 2112 which is a POS, but the patch was cool.
And the Rocktron Voodoo valve 2 or taboo twin - Eruption patches
I also have a couple books on effects and settings for signature sounds.

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