Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating

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Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating

Post by Tone Slinger » Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:15 pm

Sounded great Phil :rock: Wish I still had my Metro 12xxx :drool:
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Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating

Post by rockgod212 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:22 pm

yeah here is the one I bought.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131460647951
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rockgod212 wrote:well I took the plunge and bought a used power stat 0-132v@3 amp variac off ebay $90.00 total- not a bad price, looks nice as its already in a box type case. I cant wait to try it out with my new 50watt el34 plexi build. should be exactly what I was looking for. :mrgreen:
I'd be curious to see the box type case. Carrying the variac around without proper casing has always kind of bothered me. Do you have a link or a pic of it?
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Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating

Post by Strat78 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:07 pm

rockgod212 wrote:yeah here is the one I bought.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131460647951
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rockgod212 wrote:well I took the plunge and bought a used power stat 0-132v@3 amp variac off ebay $90.00 total- not a bad price, looks nice as its already in a box type case. I cant wait to try it out with my new 50watt el34 plexi build. should be exactly what I was looking for. :mrgreen:
I'd be curious to see the box type case. Carrying the variac around without proper casing has always kind of bothered me. Do you have a link or a pic of it?
Not sure 1.75 amps is enough, I think you need at least 5 to 10 amps for this application to be safe. Is it too late to cancel the order?

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Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating

Post by rgalpin » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:54 pm

Strat78 wrote:Here is the exact one Edward used and it looks mint. All things considered, the price is a steel!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ohmite-Cat-No-V ... 4ae15c27c0
Oh, I just found this old clip with a variac dialed way down with the bias calculated for a plate voltage of 380v. I remember not liking the nasally tone, but now I kind of dig it. Also, this was George's 68 kit right off the bench pretty much, what a life changer those kits were for allot of us!
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=9665912
Was that straight in? Any idea what the voltage setting on the variac was? Sounds killer. Loaded to Soundclick SEPT 2010. Is that when you did it?

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Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating

Post by rockgod212 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:09 pm

why wouldn't it be enough amps, it says on the front fuse rated for 3amps? isn't that enough of a amperage rating? I saw where you got the 1.75A, but im confused about that rating and the fused rating? im not sure if I can cancel it or not.:what:

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rockgod212 wrote:yeah here is the one I bought.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131460647951

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Not sure 1.75 amps is enough, I think you need at least 5 to 10 amps for this application to be safe. Is it too late to cancel the order?
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Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating

Post by rockgod212 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:27 pm

@strat 78, ok I think I can still cancel that variac, and I got a line on a ohmite 0-140@7.5A that's in box also, that one should work for sure then.
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Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating

Post by Strat78 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:48 pm

Yeah, the three amp fuse is confusing too, but better be safe than sorry.
This one looks pretty good, he even demonstrates that it is working, sometimes the brush is shot or the center rod is bent and they can never work again in that case.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OHMITE-6-AMP-12 ... 19fd6d64a1

These things need to be double boxed or they are toast after shipping.

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Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating

Post by rockgod212 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:05 pm

ok thanx, I musta missed that one. I gotta make sure I got the other one cancelled first.
Strat78 wrote:Yeah, the three amp fuse is confusing too, but better be safe than sorry.
This one looks pretty good, he even demonstrates that it is working, sometimes the brush is shot or the center rod is bent and they can never work again in that case.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OHMITE-6-AMP-12 ... 19fd6d64a1

These things need to be double boxed or they are toast after shipping.
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Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating

Post by Strat78 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:27 pm

rgalpin wrote:
Strat78 wrote:Here is the exact one Edward used and it looks mint. All things considered, the price is a steel!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ohmite-Cat-No-V ... 4ae15c27c0
Oh, I just found this old clip with a variac dialed way down with the bias calculated for a plate voltage of 380v. I remember not liking the nasally tone, but now I kind of dig it. Also, this was George's 68 kit right off the bench pretty much, what a life changer those kits were for allot of us!
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=9665912
Was that straight in? Any idea what the voltage setting on the variac was? Sounds killer. Loaded to Soundclick SEPT 2010. Is that when you did it?
I found where that was posted:
http://forum.metroamp.com/viewtopic.php ... 50#p322550
Yeah, that seems like a long time ago, and we were all there too. I used to be set up in a sound proof basement so I could get away with really cranking the amp the way it should be. It was basically the 68 kit witch I changed the 2.7k to 820ohm, switched in the yellow chicklets .68's and changed the nfb to 100k with the 4ohm tap. Not sure where the variac was set but the plates were 380v biased at 50ma. Oh, and those were new scumback m75's! The first half of the clip was with a Destroyer/super70's and the second half (ATBL) is a strat with an old JB pickup. Echoplex and flanger in front no 6-band. I wonder if I put a poly pro cap in the .002 position, that usually heats up the tone like that. I think this clip sounds like your clips Rob.

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Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating

Post by rockgod212 » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:35 pm

very nice tone you got there. im new to the EVH tone chase, so I don't know how low I will really go, probably 110v max. but you never know. :vh:

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Strat78 wrote:Here is the exact one Edward used and it looks mint. All things considered, the price is a steel!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ohmite-Cat-No-V ... 4ae15c27c0
Oh, I just found this old clip with a variac dialed way down with the bias calculated for a plate voltage of 380v. I remember not liking the nasally tone, but now I kind of dig it. Also, this was George's 68 kit right off the bench pretty much, what a life changer those kits were for allot of us!
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=9665912
Was that straight in? Any idea what the voltage setting on the variac was? Sounds killer. Loaded to Soundclick SEPT 2010. Is that when you did it?
I found where that was posted:
http://forum.metroamp.com/viewtopic.php ... 50#p322550
Yeah, that seems like a long time ago, and we were all there too. I used to be set up in a sound proof basement so I could get away with really cranking the amp the way it should be. It was basically the 68 kit witch I changed the 2.7k to 820ohm, switched in the yellow chicklets .68's and changed the nfb to 100k with the 4ohm tap. Not sure where the variac was set but the plates were 380v biased at 50ma. Oh, and those were new scumback m75's! The first half of the clip was with a Destroyer/super70's and the second half (ATBL) is a strat with an old JB pickup. Echoplex and flanger in front no 6-band. I wonder if I put a poly pro cap in the .002 position, that usually heats up the tone like that. I think this clip sounds like your clips Rob.
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Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating

Post by rockgod212 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 6:32 pm

i was able to cancel the other one and I bought the one you sent me the link to. thanx
Strat78 wrote:Yeah, the three amp fuse is confusing too, but better be safe than sorry.
This one looks pretty good, he even demonstrates that it is working, sometimes the brush is shot or the center rod is bent and they can never work again in that case.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OHMITE-6-AMP-12 ... 19fd6d64a1

These things need to be double boxed or they are toast after shipping.
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Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating

Post by Strat78 » Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:03 pm

rockgod212 wrote:i was able to cancel the other one and I bought the one you sent me the link to. thanx
Strat78 wrote:Yeah, the three amp fuse is confusing too, but better be safe than sorry.
This one looks pretty good, he even demonstrates that it is working, sometimes the brush is shot or the center rod is bent and they can never work again in that case.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OHMITE-6-AMP-12 ... 19fd6d64a1

These things need to be double boxed or they are toast after shipping.
That should be a good one! I have one just like it and it has been working great for a couple years now. It's nice having the handle too. Now you need a vintage mxd 6-band now (box logo).

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Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating

Post by Strat78 » Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:13 pm

yeah, that should be good.
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Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating

Post by rockgod212 » Sun Mar 22, 2015 5:51 pm

yeah, that one is a bit pricey for me at the moment, I will look into getting one. I do have a mxr 10 band though, no the same though I know.
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Re: Variac a Super Lead instead of attenuating

Post by rgorke » Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:30 pm

rockgod212 wrote:yeah, that one is a bit pricey for me at the moment, I will look into getting one. I do have a mxr 10 band though, no the same though I know.
Yeah, not exactly the same thing but Mark Day gets some great VH tones with his. Same frequencies as the Boss GE-10...just a little less salt on your filet....
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