Phase 90 suggestion wanted

[jimmy_j]

Which variation of the Phase 90 will get me closest to the first albums sound? I have a Whirlwind Orange right now but it's too wet. I need something more subtle.
Suggestions are greatly appreciated.

[dirtycooter]

There is trim pot inside it, have you fiddled with it??? If not don't give up on the whirlwind cause its about the best there is available new today imho and solved my phase hunt.

[vanhalen5150]

+1 I agree.

[rgorke]

what they said.

[Funky Hunky]

I too have a Whirlwind. Real close stock. But I want mine a little more wet so I will try adjusting the trim. I assumed they set those with a scope to hit the center of the phase. If not enough, I'm gonna swap the 150k resistor with a pot to find the value I want.

[jimmy_j]

There is trim pot inside it, have you fiddled with it??? If not don't give up on the whirlwind cause its about the best there is available new today imho and solved my phase hunt.

I have but it seemed to just kind of change the phase offset point or something? It didn't affect the wet to dry ratio.

[jimmy_j]

I tried it again and I guess it seems a little better. It's a really small micro tweak range on the pot for the sweet spot.

[garbeaj]

Buy a reissue Script Logo Phase 90 if you must have something new. But if you find an original 70s script logo Bud box Phase 90 just buy it. Spend money on it. They aren't exactly impossible to find and if you really want the sound, get a real deal non-Dunlop MXR Phase 90 from the 70s.

I don't understand why people spend money on tricked out clones or reissues when you can probably spend only a little more and get a real one. There is an original on eBay right now with a Buy It Now price of $259. Get it. You'll be happy you did.
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[Good Guest]

Yep get an original..unless your a tech and know the ins and outs of adjusting the mix you are better off with the original....Even clones are working off chips that have drastically different gain levels than the original, that even with the right part numbers of everything the mix will still be screwed up, and as a result always favor the wet signal.

[dirtycooter]

I have absolutely no plans on buying a real one ever. I am completely satisfied with the WW.
Its kinda why we are here isn't? To revive and make new amps and such that sound like the old ones? So you don't have to spend $6000 on a head or buy strictly high dollar blackbacks from the 70's?To get away from the overpriced vintage market?
I don't care if it was from yesterday-if it sounds good I am usin it.

[garbeaj]

But to me paying $250 for an original instead of $129 for a reissue makes sense. Real Plexi's are just not logical, but to me a vintage MXR Phase 90 isn't out of reach.

Of course I got my original model for $20 at a pawn shop back in 1987 and I've used it ever since...but still, I would shell out the extra $100 or so odd dollars for a real one if I never had such good luck shopping back then.

[dirtycooter]

i just want manufacturers even if they are new companies to be rewarded for bringing REAL and GOOD things to market. Whirlwind has a winner here. Especially in the sea of horsecrap thats out there today. Why can't things go back to the way they were or used to be? Seems always someone is closing the door on that possibility with everything.
I think WW woulda been a bigger deal than it is if MXR/Dunlop would have been even later in making the script reissue finally right. how many tries did it take them? shame on them. And to be honest-you have a point. there for a while, after the block, modded block, custom shop, script reissue and the thousand other versions-it woulda been cheaper to go out and plunk down that $270 right from the start instead of buying 10 versions at 60-100 $ a pop to finally get there.
But you know whats nice? Some beginner in this phase race will have a much quicker arrival at the THE PHASE 90 tone than it took most of us. All they have to do is come here and read where to find the good stuff. Alot of us had to buy ten of everything to figure it out and learn what tiny differences mattered and what to look for.
now its gettin pretty text book written now

[vanhalen5150]

I have 2 originals, both mid 70's. I don't think sound better than the Whirlwind, but others will not agree. Buying a pedal from the mid 70's is like buying lightbulbs and batteries from the same time period. Most of those old pedals have a lot of corrosion around the components at the solder joints. Peel back some of the wire insulation and most of the old copper wires are green from time. Most of the pots need to be replaced. You can still find a good one, now and then but the odds are never good. There is a transitional period as well with carbon comp and carbon film resistors in them as well. The "Bud" box had all carbon comp but I have one that has all of those but is not a B box. The other has both comp and film resistors in it.
If you have a 4 input amp, jumper your phaser from inputs 1 to 2 and use your volume 2 to blend the effect in.

[garbeaj]

The original Bud box MXR Phase 90 that I got for $20 has been a trooper. The battery cap had come loose from the wiring when it was in the pawn shop. I had my tech put fresh wire and a new battery cap on it for $5.00 when I bought it in 1987 and it has worked 100% perfectly ever since. As far as the sound, it is the sound you hear on VH-1 and every other cheesy use of the Phase 90 in the 70s and early 80s.

If I were a kid buying my first Phase 90, I would be safe in buying a modern Dunlop reissue script logo version. It looks the same and basically sounds the same as an original and it has a set price. The originals might still be had at a decent price, so I wouldn't count those out. Cosmetics have an appeal to me that may not matter to others. If I didn't have my original, I would like to have an actual MXR branded script logo Phase 90 in an accurate orange box than any clone.

[MrBeasty]

I have an original MXR Phase 90 and Flanger and they sound great ... but I also have reissues because I don't want to gig with the old units. For every awesome sound they make they make as many crappy ones: noises, hiss, hum, clic, etc ...
Plus, I would be bummed-out if they were broken/stolen so I am still buying the new reissues too , in hope to find the most worthy clones.

So far, the Whirlwind Phaser and the EVH Flanger are the closest I have encountered. The Phaser is still not as good as my old one but the Flanger might be better than my vintage unit.

The Dunlop EVH/Custom_Shop_Script Phaser 90 with LED is too fat/thick sounding. I have not tried the '74 Script from the custom shop.

Cosmetics have an appeal to me that may not matter to others. If I didn't have my original, I would like to have an actual MXR branded script logo Phase 90 in an accurate orange box than any clone.

I take care of my stuff but I'll use any ugly piece of junk if it sounds good. My old MXR script Phase 90 is beat-up and has a hole (poorly) drilled into it for a power cable to go through ... but circuit is intact!