anyone use a DSD with 250K pots?

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anyone use a DSD with 250K pots?

Post by Marshall SL12301 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:28 pm

What was the results? does it take away too much bite for the VH I tone? Ed MAY HAVE USED a 250K or even a 300K in the sunburst strat or the black strat?
If he had not yet butchered the ES 335 his would have just used the pots and electronics that were orignally on the strat? NO? :whistle:
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Re: anyone need a DSD?

Post by JimiJames » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:21 pm

You are sadly mistaken. :(
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Post by Marshall SL12301 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:22 pm

JimiJames wrote:You are sadly mistaken. :(
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Post by Marshall SL12301 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:24 pm

JimiJames wrote:You are sadly mistaken. :(
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thanks jimi! :rock:
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Re: anyone use a DSD with 250K pots?

Post by Ralle » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:05 am

I'm using a 250k lin pot...
It feels more right for the early sound...
No tone controll :wink:

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Re: anyone use a DSD with 250K pots?

Post by jnewlyn » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:09 am

300K for me. Probably close enough to a 250K but yeah, seems to have found the sweet spot. 8)
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Re: anyone use a DSD with 250K pots?

Post by Marshall SL12301 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:26 pm

Ralle wrote:I'm using a 250k lin pot...
It feels more right for the early sound...
No tone controll :wink:
:rock: good to know since your tone is closer than most! :thumbsup:
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Re: anyone use a DSD with 250K pots?

Post by Ralle » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:42 pm

Hmm... 300k... I tried that... I must say liked that... can't say tomatejto or tomato on that one... the 300k sounded juuuuuust a bit bigger... and thers's nothing wrong with that... just comes to show that Ed using a Gibson ( they usually had 300k pots ) is more than just a matter of when he did that... :wink:

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Re: anyone use a DSD with 250K pots?

Post by garbeaj » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:12 pm

This is interesting to me...I know Mark uses a 500k pot with his DSD. I'm intrigued about trying a 300k. I'm given to understand that Gibsons generally came or still come with a 300k pot as Ralle says. Is this so? Most of the interviews claimed it was a 500k pot from Ed's ES-335 guitar...

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Re: anyone use a DSD with 250K pots?

Post by Ralle » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:18 pm

To my understanding Gibson used 300k pots ( not in all moddels ) in the slightly early days... I think the 500k pots came in later... now it maybe so that there was 500's in back in the day as well...
I had 500k in untill like a couple of weeks ago... I put in 300 first, and then to 250 after that... I did that after reading the strat thread, and saw Ed's strange pu switch, and the possition of his vol pot... and that comes in a stock fender start...

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Re: anyone use a DSD with 250K pots?

Post by JimiJames » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:20 pm

I like to 'use' my volume. In other words in my technique requires 250 or 300 because I do incorporate volumes swells and other subtleties.
Manufacturers as a general rule utilize 250's for singles and 500 for hummers. Some players use a different value pot it to counter highs either adding or subtracting to taste. Others using different value and taper for the tone in combination with the volume and not necessarily the same for each.
JimiJames wrote:.........+1 on the pickup height.
Your theory sounds reasonable. People do hear differently and some better than others.
Leave it to the experts but, if you can hear a difference that's what counts.
Fender does make those "no load" pots. I've used both 250K & 500K on various pickups
and it's all a matter of taste. (With or without a tone pot.)
So on the other hand one could cut/add highs just by changing pots opposed to changing the cap on the tone.

Out of all the combinations I've tried I prefer the(cts) Gibson 300k to work the humbucker.
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Re: anyone use a DSD with 250K pots?

Post by rgorke » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:40 pm

Would adding a cap in the line somewhere achieve a similar result? Like a tone cap mod if there were a tone control?
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Re: anyone use a DSD with 250K pots?

Post by Ralle » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:07 pm

If you put it in serie with a resistor that fit the tone pot value, yes...

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Re: anyone use a DSD with 250K pots?

Post by Marshall SL12301 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:59 pm

Ralle wrote:To my understanding Gibson used 300k pots ( not in all moddels ) in the slightly early days... I think the 500k pots came in later...
I read this too and then maybe the pot that was "borrowed" from his ES 335 was indeed a 300K on the frank then? :scratch:
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Re: anyone use a DSD with 250K pots?

Post by garbeaj » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:06 pm

Marshall SL12301 wrote:
Ralle wrote:To my understanding Gibson used 300k pots ( not in all moddels ) in the slightly early days... I think the 500k pots came in later...
I read this too and then maybe the pot that was "borrowed" from his ES 335 was indeed a 300K on the frank then? :scratch:
Could be...

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