Drop Dead Legs question

[JimiJames]

Would like to hear some Ralle input on this

[garbeaj]

Believe it or not, that's the little light blue MXR Analog Chorus.

Sounds pretty good at the poor man's Eventide sound:)

[beanoblues]

Here's me playing it this way

https://soundcloud.com/beanoblues/dd

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Which I think is Garbeaj's method.

[Rich_D]

There should be a ton of interviews like this where Ed talks what he likes to talk about, playing guitar.

Amen dude, like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGqNlQlJ4Jo

[donnyboiler]

Here's me playing it this way

https://soundcloud.com/beanoblues/dd

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Which I think is Garbeaj's method.

That's how you do it. I got this thanks to Garbeaj's help back when the thread started. I then slide off again to a C5 but I fret the C and play the G open. It flows better this way and sounds cooler. Sometimes I clip the D on the B string here as well for a Cadd9 which I think is how Ed does it.

This is how I do it:

http://youtu.be/CCqJyKnA-4c?t=6m55s

Frankly I'm still working out the rest, I have it closer now than I did in that vid.

[BSE25]

Gentlemen,

There is no C in this opening part. It's C# on the 4th fret A string bent 1/2br to 1br to the dropped D chord. In other words it's a quick bend/vibrato and bigger quick bend vibrato on the A string. The opening A chord has a C# not a C. If the opening chord had a C the chord would now be an A minor.

Brian

[donnyboiler]

But it's not over an A root, it's over a D root. D mixolydian.

The only A root is in the chorus and the intro which is not the bit of the song we're talking about. The verses are in D mixolydian, hence Cs are natural, hence the C5 too.

I'm listening to it now, the bend starts on C natural, clear as day. Listen again.

[BSE25]

I may not have verbalized my thoughts accurately but the way my ears and fingers play it's C# bent 1/2 to 1 step then to the C. I will be the first to admit my theory sucks but it just feels right. It's very rare Ed will bend a root note and then play the same chord with the root note unbent.

[donnyboiler]

Your theory is fine but your ears are wrong. Sorry.

Listen to the track. It's a C. It bends up to a D via the C sharp, once or twice you barely hear the C but it's there.

[BSE25]

DannyBoiler..I stand corrected. I do hear the C. But can we agree it's the C bent a few times upward with no Whammy?

[garbeaj]

Here's me playing it this way

https://soundcloud.com/beanoblues/dd

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Which I think is Garbeaj's method.

That's exactly right...I then pull off from that slide up to the fifth fret that you have as the last note to the C on the 3rd fret...the bend from the 3rd fret up to the D note, the release of the bend back to C, the slide up to the fifth fret and the pull off to the C note at the 3rd fret is all one continuous motion. That then leaves my index finger on the C at the third fret...which then sets me up to play the C5 two note power chord using the fretted C note at the third fret of the A string and the open G string. THAT is how I hear it and play it in my clip and how I think Ed is playing it.

I haven't heard anyone's clip that sounds close enough to the record to change my opinion, but I hope to encourage you all to share your take on it.

[donnyboiler]

DannyBoiler..I stand corrected. I do hear the C. But can we agree it's the C bent a few times upward with no Whammy?

Yeah, I think we all pretty much agree on that now. It was mostly me originally saying it was the bar but hey, there's no bar on an Explorer!

It's bend up, bend down, slide up, slide down. Always from C to D. Simple really, don't know why I played it wrong for 15 years

Garbeaj, try sliding off the final D to C. The G of the C5 is an open G on the record, listen closely. It allows you to slide to the C5 which makes the whole thing even slipperier. Everything else I am doing exactly as you describe.

Sometimes the C5 is a Cadd9 with a D on the B string too. Very hard to hear but it's clearer some times than others, listen right through, the clearest is at 1m 53 secs. So the chord is:

C at third fret of the A string with whatever finger you were already using, lean it back so the D string doesn't sound, then open G spelling C5, then occasionally D on the B string spelling Cadd9. Try it.

[garbeaj]

DannyBoiler..I stand corrected. I do hear the C. But can we agree it's the C bent a few times upward with no Whammy?

Yeah, I think we all pretty much agree on that now. It was mostly me originally saying it was the bar but hey, there's no bar on an Explorer!

It's bend up, bend down, slide up, slide down. Always from C to D. Simple really, don't know why I played it wrong for 15 years

Garbeaj, try sliding off the final D to C. The G of the C5 is an open G on the record, listen closely. It allows you to slide to the C5 which makes the whole thing even slipperier. Everything else I am doing exactly as you describe.

Sometimes the C5 is a Cadd9 with a D on the B string too. Very hard to hear but it's clearer some times than others, listen right through. So the chord is:

C at third fret of the A string with whatever finger you were already using, lean it back so the D string doesn't sound, then open G spelling C5, then occasionally D on the B string spelling Cadd9. Try it.

That is how I described it above and how I play it in my clip. But I hear a pull-off from the 5th fret of the A string to the C on the 3rd fret, no slide.

So basically we are all pretty much saying that I had it right to begin with...I should have posted a TAB of how I play it and the confusion would have been ended much sooner!

And it was a Gibson '58 Flying V...not an Explorer

[donnyboiler]

Oh yeah, I'm confusing it with the Explorer in your pic.

It's a slide though dude, go back and listen. I'm listening right now, it's unmistakeable. Just listen, try the stuff I said, and get back to me. If you still disagree I'm happy with that. Hey man, I'm playing this riff right because of you - give me a fair hearing

Listen at 1 minute 53 secs. The slide, the open G and the caught D on the B string, it's all there, unmistakeable.

[garbeaj]

Oh yeah, I'm confusing it with the Explorer in your pic.

It's a slide though dude, go back and listen. I'm listening right now, it's unmistakeable. Just listen, try the stuff I said, and get back to me. If you still disagree I'm happy with that.

I actually play it exactly as you described, but I don't hear a slide on that one part, but we agree on everything else. Your description is exactly the same as mine except for that last bit of the continuous lick which you hear as a slide and I hear as a pull-off. But we agree totally on every other part of the fingering, including the C5 chord.