Roland SDE-3000 settings ...

MrBeasty · Post by **MrBeasty** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:06 pm

Alright peeps, what are the settings?

Delay times are 250ms and 500ms, feedback at zero value (or close) but what about modulation?

Any up close pics?

dirtycooter · Post by **dirtycooter** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:41 am

Wondered this to. Its not a true ping pong as the second repeat will be centered as both will fire on the second repeat at the same time and the fourth. It would be like L, center, L, center instead of L, R, L, R with those settings. So I have to wonder here.
Dave Friedman may know. I have never seen the 250/500 settings, only heard it was.
I can do a 250/500 inside the g-force but the feedback paths can be crosslinked, sde's ed is usin aren't and are two separate units unless he is linking the external loops on the sde's feedback paths. So i think its more in depth than just what it sounds like.
I have a strong inkling the phase reverse is "on" as well. That so keeps the sound separated to my ears and adds a dimension.
Loved my sde1000's and can only imagine what the 3000's sound like.

MrBeasty · Post by **MrBeasty** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:28 am

There is no secret sauce. Just in/out and a remote control of the bypass.
What is "special" is the modulation.

502_6speed · Post by **502_6speed** » Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:08 am

any more info settings on this?

bmf5150 · Post by **bmf5150** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:08 am

Does the Roland sde3000 sound better than your normal stereo rack delay for a wet dry wet setup??

dirtycooter · Post by **dirtycooter** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:26 pm

Yeah, I wonder this too.
Never havin the chance to try one out sucks. I refuse to buy a mono unit that
A. I will need to buy another one to complete the madness
B. Is older than hell and could take a shit anytime
C. Lacks remote functionality by todays capabilities
D. Over priced for all the above factors to be honest

I do and did a learn a lesson though-every manufacturer out there uses different AD converters that can really make a sound warm and organic beautiful or generic and lifeless. How the effect sits with everything else can be impacted greatly here.
New lexicon vs old is big difference-even the factor eventide pedals vs tc g force big difference in warmth.
The SDE 1000 were pretty nice but heard not the same-for the money they were great.
Personally though I lean more towards somethin like the strymon el capistan-but even then thats not cheap and no 3-5 presets-just two. I settled on the timefactor to cover every thing else but possibly the most ideal of tone. Delay is very important to me and ai use them in many different ways.

rgorke · Post by **rgorke** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:04 pm

So, what are some good alternatives? Is the sde-3000 mono?

Are the new or old Lexicons better? I had a Lexicon MX200 for a while but ditched it. I can't remember why at this point.

bmf5150 · Post by **bmf5150** » Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:57 pm

I have the lexicon mx400,I'm thinking about getting two sde3000

classalpha · Post by **classalpha** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:28 am

... Ed used an SPX-90 II as well...

... just wanted to add that *IMO* the old, low-bit-rate, rack-mounted digital effects processors sound much better to my ears than the ultra-transparent, 64+ bit, over-engineered, Tone-Print/iPhone/iPad software-based digital (Axxe) FX crap... errr... "stuff" available today...

Funky Hunky · Post by **Funky Hunky** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:38 am

Re: Roland SDE-3000 settings ...

Postby classalpha » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:28 am
... Ed used an SPX-90 II as well...

... just wanted to add that *IMO* the old, low-bit-rate, rack-mounted digital effects processors sound much better to my ears than the ultra-transparent, 64+ bit, over-engineered, Tone-Print/iPhone/iPad software-based digital (Axxe) FX crap... errr... "stuff" available today..

YES,YES,YES. Been using an ADA 1.28i since it was new in the 80's for this very reason. Nothing sounds as good to me. Warm and wonderful.

classalpha · Post by **classalpha** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:47 am

Funky Hunky wrote:Re: Roland SDE-3000 settings ...

YES,YES,YES. Been using an ADA 1.28i since it was new in the 80's for this very reason. Nothing sounds as good to me. Warm and wonderful.

... ADA FX were killer...

The digital Chorus & "Flanging" available in the MP-1 were sweet too ...reminded me of the type of intense modulation one could get w/ the VCO in the Lexicon PCM-42 - thick & meaty. Paul Gilbert was using an ADA rack setup when I saw his last gigs w/ Racer X....he was dicking around w/ the Pitchtraq in-between songs too... playing the chordal fifths on Holdsworth's "Metal Fatigue" intro w/ it ...

dirtycooter · Post by **dirtycooter** » Fri Sep 07, 2012 2:49 am

Is the mix knob on the 3000 analog?? I know SOME fx were analog in/out-the dry sound stayed truly dry but some of it was bled off to the AD converters for processing so it didn't mess with your core tone.
The factor pedals don't do this but if you wanted hardwire bypass you can have it but the effect and its spill have to be off.
Rocktron Intellifex and intelliverb did the dry analog mixed with the output of the digital fx and it really is noticeably "the shit"

I know the strymon el capistan and timeline do this and it truly is the best way of doin business in this area for alot folk.
They also have a killdry option as well.

bmf5150 · Post by **bmf5150** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:10 pm

need some advice guys,i got two roland sde300 for my wet dry wet setup.but they both seem to have drascticaly different output levels.im trying to figure out if one is bad?with the switch on the back for input set the same and the front input trim level set the same,i have the output number on one unit at 2 and the other unit at 40 to get them to equal out in volume??where od you set yours at?is the one set to 40 bad??thanks
stan

dirtycooter · Post by **dirtycooter** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:24 pm

Hmm.. what are you feeding it with?? Do you have both left and right cabs in the same phase??? Out of phase can cause one side to sound weaker than the other. It'll have noticeably less bass on the out of phase side. Best way to check it is run each one in mono as a test to see if the same settings react the same way-if not then somethin is wrong with one of them.

Lookin at the manual online I see it has a way to link the two units together wth a special jack on the back for what looks like cross feedback paths so one unit will trigger the other for a more true ping pong effect. This "crossfeedback" path is key for that. I use it in my gforce, and my lex and that ability is awesome. The time factor cannot do that unless you use filter pong or have a ping pong specific program where the cross link is already preset in the algorithm. So if its an input problem maybe the crosslink might still work.

bmf5150 · Post by **bmf5150** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:13 am

Thanks for advice