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Sudden redplating problem
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:25 am
by jimmyride
Hi there!
I've been enjoying my 12xxx couple of months with no problems and at the beginning of our last rehearsal the HT fuse blew. I changed the fuse and fired up the amp and noticed V4 go crazy. I turned off the amp, changed the tube and turned it on again. All was ok so I started playing. It was all good for like half a minute. Then the V4 started to glow again and the fuse blew once again. I need to solve this problem this week to get ready for the next rehearsal. Any idea where to look? The tubes are NOS Teslas. I plan to order a set of new set of tubes for this kind of testing. The first redplating happened with no input and the volume at zero which is not a good sign as I read it somewhere here.
Re: Sudden redplating problem
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:03 am
by neikeel
You should check the screen resistor on that socket. Then if that is ok swap the valves around to see if it follows the valve or the socket, but check the resistor first.
Re: Sudden redplating problem
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:30 am
by demonufo
+1.
Once you're certain that is good, and you're doubly sure about the tubes themselves, then check bias supply to that socket, and the condition of the 220K bias splitter for that tube...followed by the coupling capacitor - which if it's passing DC, could potentially cause this.
Re: Sudden redplating problem
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:17 am
by jimmyride
Will do. Thanks guys!
Re: Sudden redplating problem
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:25 pm
by axeman
Also, how old are the bias cap's? are hey new. Don't use a CC resistor in that area especially above the diode that's next to the bias cap's
Re: Sudden redplating problem
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 5:48 pm
by jimmyride
I got finally my hands on some fuses so I was able to solve the problem. It was bad tube. Not V7 but her neighbour which was taking V7 with her. I'm glad it was so easy. But I almost ran of my strong Teslas... this is not the only one gone bad in this amp. I don't even dime it often. Which is probably the reason - she got simply bored.

Which reminds me... in English - is the tube "she" or "it"? In Czech we use "she" but it looks a bit odd so I thought I'd ask. Anyway... Thanks again for your help guys.
Re: Sudden redplating problem
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:03 pm
by demonufo
In English, we don't really refer to anything as 'she' other than females (of any species). Although, we maybe use it as a term of affection when applied to say, a particularly nice guitar, motorbike, car, amp... something that's special to us.
Re: Sudden redplating problem
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:18 pm
by jimmyride
Yeah well... aren't the tubes beautiful? Especially NOS EL34s.

Re: Sudden redplating problem
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:54 pm
by demonufo
Indeed. But they look more male than female I guess...

Re: Sudden redplating problem
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:59 am
by jimmyride
Re: Sudden redplating problem
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:47 am
by demonufo