Marshall 1959SLP restoration
Moderator: VelvetGeorge
- bill bokey
- Senior Member
- Posts: 490
- Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:54 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 13492
- Location: France
- Contact:
Marshall 1959SLP restoration
I traded an old (and great sounding) Carlsbro CS60TC Twin combo for this (badly) modified 1959SLP :
Something was totally wrong with it, it sounded so bad and the solder joints looked so bad I thought it best to remove everything and start from scratch. I rewired the heaters with 18AWG for the power tubes and 22AWG for the preamp. Probably overkill ... but I couldn't help myself !
Then I made a turret board (UK sourced Phenolic) :
Apart from a few AB carbon comp resistors (the long 820s, 100k and the dropping Rs) and the 'chicklet' cathode caps I only used new components :
Tried to keep it as tidy as possible
I have not yet had the time to plug it in but I will asap and then expermient with various OTs and PT. I have 2 Marstran (C1998 and 1202-119) and an early 70's Drake 1202-99. Should be interesting to hear the difference between these OTs...
Something was totally wrong with it, it sounded so bad and the solder joints looked so bad I thought it best to remove everything and start from scratch. I rewired the heaters with 18AWG for the power tubes and 22AWG for the preamp. Probably overkill ... but I couldn't help myself !
Then I made a turret board (UK sourced Phenolic) :
Apart from a few AB carbon comp resistors (the long 820s, 100k and the dropping Rs) and the 'chicklet' cathode caps I only used new components :
Tried to keep it as tidy as possible
I have not yet had the time to plug it in but I will asap and then expermient with various OTs and PT. I have 2 Marstran (C1998 and 1202-119) and an early 70's Drake 1202-99. Should be interesting to hear the difference between these OTs...
Last edited by bill bokey on Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:16 am, edited 1 time in total.
- neikeel
- Senior Member
- Posts: 7231
- Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:31 am
- Location: Suffolk, England
Re: Marshall 1959SLP restoration
Fantastic work.
I will be fsacinated to hear the differences in the OTs (will you be recording like-for-like clips?).
The Marstran and the old Drake -99 should be equivalents.
I did a back to baclk on a 71 SL with a -99 and a Dagnall 2668 and found the Drake a bit crisper in the mid range before saturation, but still quite similar. I think the 1998 is better for the saturated tones?
I will be fsacinated to hear the differences in the OTs (will you be recording like-for-like clips?).
The Marstran and the old Drake -99 should be equivalents.
I did a back to baclk on a 71 SL with a -99 and a Dagnall 2668 and found the Drake a bit crisper in the mid range before saturation, but still quite similar. I think the 1998 is better for the saturated tones?
Neil
- bill bokey
- Senior Member
- Posts: 490
- Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:54 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 13492
- Location: France
- Contact:
Re: Marshall 1959SLP restoration
Cheers Neil !neikeel wrote:Fantastic work.
I'll use a reamp box and will measure the pots so the settings are exactly the sameneikeel wrote:I will be fsacinated to hear the differences in the OTs (will you be recording like-for-like clips?).
- bill bokey
- Senior Member
- Posts: 490
- Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:54 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 13492
- Location: France
- Contact:
Re: Marshall 1959SLP restoration
The amp ended up with Classic Tone transformers and choke. First time I used them and I must say they are a great value for money !! I did not find the time to record any A/B clips (I recently moved to a new house and my recording gear has yet to come out its box) but I compared it to my '68 clone (w/ Pihers, Iskras, ABs, Mustards, Lemco micas etc... and Marstran trannys) and it's scaringly close with the same settings and similar (but not identical) tubes.
Here are a few videos (camera sound only) :
Needless to say these videos don't do the amp justice
Tone is great (in the room) but most of all I really enjoyed the PT/choke sag. I could hardly stop playing !
Hopefully I'll find time for the OT shootout with the next Super Lead build.
Here are a few videos (camera sound only) :
Needless to say these videos don't do the amp justice
Tone is great (in the room) but most of all I really enjoyed the PT/choke sag. I could hardly stop playing !
Hopefully I'll find time for the OT shootout with the next Super Lead build.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 1099
- Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:09 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 13492
Re: Marshall 1959SLP restoration
Those clips sounded great! Nice work!
- bill bokey
- Senior Member
- Posts: 490
- Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:54 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 13492
- Location: France
- Contact:
- rgorke
- Senior Member
- Posts: 4509
- Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:37 am
- Just the numbers in order: 13492
- Location: Drought Ravaged SoCal
Re: Marshall 1959SLP restoration
Yeah, that sounds really good. So both OT and PT are Classic Tone?
"If you make a mistake, do it twice and smile and let people think you meant it." Jan Van Halen.
- bill bokey
- Senior Member
- Posts: 490
- Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:54 pm
- Just the numbers in order: 13492
- Location: France
- Contact:
Re: Marshall 1959SLP restoration
OT, PT and choke are Classic Tone.
I sold the amp locally so hopefully I'll be able to borrow it and compare it with other OTs I have in stock. At the moment I have 3 C1998 clones (Marstran, Metro and M e r r e n) and a Drake 1201-99. I just need more time
Thanks for watching !
I sold the amp locally so hopefully I'll be able to borrow it and compare it with other OTs I have in stock. At the moment I have 3 C1998 clones (Marstran, Metro and M e r r e n) and a Drake 1201-99. I just need more time
Thanks for watching !