Jeff Beck

NY Chief · Post by **NY Chief** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:33 pm

Gery Moore shredded BB on Thrill is Gone. BB is a f'n instituion but GM plays all of BB's licks back at him. F.n amazing. And Beck anhilates Calpton on the Secret Policem's Ball stuff.

So look little boys... there are GREAT guitar players, and there are really good guitar players. EVH and Lynch and Gilbert and Luke are really good....

Listen to the guys that defined it....Beck, Clapton, Hendrix, Page AND more importantly listen to who defined THEM... THE Kings, Buddy Guy, Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters...

wdelaney72 · Post by **wdelaney72** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:12 pm

OK, I'm kind of embarrassed to say that as a 35 year-old man, I really haven't heard much of Jeff Beck's actual recordings. OBVIOUSLY, I know who he is and have heard how great he is for years, I've just never listened to him.

Chief,
You seem to be the reigning JB fan club champion on the board... which of his CDs do I start with:
1) Wired
2) Blow By Blow
3) other?

NitroLiq · Post by **NitroLiq** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:17 pm

The two you mentioned are good for the fusion stuff (wired is a bit more intense/heavier of the two). I'd also recommend "Truth" which is more along the lines of Zep I/II. I haven't listened to enough of his modern stuff to make much of a comment but I've wanted to check out the experimental one that has all the drum 'n' bass/jungle breakbeats and electronica elements. The clips I heard sounded interesting.

NY Chief · Post by **NY Chief** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:31 pm

NitroLiq wrote:The two you mentioned are good for the fusion stuff (wired is a bit more intense/heavier of the two). I'd also recommend "Truth" which is more along the lines of Zep I/II. I haven't listened to enough of his modern stuff to make much of a comment but I've wanted to check out the experimental one that has all the drum 'n' bass/jungle breakbeats and electronica elements. The clips I heard sounded interesting.

That would be Frankies House.

Depends on what you like. Beck has evolved so many styles.

You can hear where he's already going experimental / pyschodelic on the Yardbirds stuff. I believe he actually beat "Keef" to first fuzz bux recorded. And some of the songs are goofy in a fun way. On the Yarbdirds box set there are couple of recordings from his previous band which he has said was better then the 'birds. There's a slide bit that demostrates his dead on intonation even back then. The you get into what Nitro said, the JB Truth / Beckola stuff which is credited as the blue print fro Zep. Ronny Wood plays one the heaviest bass lines EVER recorded on Jailhouse Rock. And of course Stewart on vocals. Moving to the JB groups you get into funky, motown influenced stuff with Cozy Powell on drums (Train, Train is an amazing work) and Bob Tench on vocal, another smokin bass player in CLive Chaman and of course Max Middleton on sweet keyboards. Beck was supposed to from a power trio with Carmine Appice and Tim Bogert which some say would have rivaled Cream and Hendrix if not for Beck's bad car accident and long recovery. When he finall did it was a little late but if you want hear a band rip up a boogie. BBA, smokes. From there Blow by Blow and Wired are classics and new direction that JB was starting to move to the JB Group. Some say it was the same way Jimi was leaning. Beck openly admits loving techno and most his current work shows that BUT he did take time to do a dedicated alubum to Cliff Gallup and NAILED all the rockabilly tones. The he played on Martin Scoceses Blues DVD with Tom Jones (yes, and TJ smoked!) and Van Morrsion. JB plays great jazz/blues on that and backs up Lulu on a real gut wrenching torch song. He's been a real innovator but what I think is his best are the ballady type things. Cause We've Ended as Lovers is delicious as well as Definitely Maybe and even now. He recently covered Day in the Life and has been closing his shows with Somewhere over the Rainbow. The man has developed a talent with the whammy bar that is unheard of. Listen to it all!! Enjoy!

NY Chief · Post by **NY Chief** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:39 pm

...and this little chestnut never ceases to amaze me (or Eric

)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZBeerUD-zc

Day in the Life from the recent Crossroads show.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lxaiEt52CYk

NitroLiq · Post by **NitroLiq** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:45 pm

NY Chief wrote:The you get into what Nitro said, the JB Truth / Beckola stuff which is credited as the blue print fro Zep.

I ended up buying "Truth" because of a snippet I heard of "Let Me Love you" which has a very similar layout as Zep's "Lemon Song." Crap, last time I jammed on the latter song at one of the ampfests, I started throwing in the JB licks from LMLY. Great tune!

NY Chief · Post by **NY Chief** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:58 pm

NitroLiq wrote:
NY Chief wrote:The you get into what Nitro said, the JB Truth / Beckola stuff which is credited as the blue print fro Zep.
I ended up buying "Truth" because of a snippet I heard of "Let Me Love you" which has a very similar layout as Zep's "Lemon Song." Crap, last time I jammed on the latter song at one of the ampfests, I started throwing in the JB licks from LMLY. Great tune!

And both Zep and JB did "You Shook Me" on the first albums.....

NitroLiq · Post by **NitroLiq** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:15 pm

The ony thing that bothers me about that album really is the piano mix on "Blues De Luxe." Everytime the solo comes on, I have to turn my headphones so freaking low...it's just piercing to my ears....but hey, that could be the tinnitus talking.

wdelaney72 · Post by **wdelaney72** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:16 pm

Will do. Thanks for knwledge.

45auto · Post by **45auto** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:24 pm

this one is ok, includes earlier stuff though

http://www.amazon.com/Beckology-Jeff-Be ... 417&sr=8-5

NY Chief · Post by **NY Chief** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:35 pm

45auto wrote:this one is ok, includes earlier stuff though

http://www.amazon.com/Beckology-Jeff-Be ... 417&sr=8-5

That's a GREAT start. All era's. Disc 1 is the one I was talking about, all the Yardbirds stuff. The Yardbirds don't get a lot of credit for being on the forefront of physchodelia (sp?). Hell Clapton couldn't handle it anymore. He wanted to play blues only.

Eargasm · Post by **Eargasm** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:52 am

Don't forget, you really have to see Jeff live in order to fully understand and appreciate him. Most people that aren't into him, haven't seen him live.

NY Chief · Post by **NY Chief** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:02 pm

Eargasm wrote:Don't forget, you really have to see Jeff live in order to fully understand and appreciate him. Most people that aren't into him, haven't seen him live.

Absolutley NO DOUBT about that, earg. It's a totaly different situation WATCHING him do that shit. It's little easier to dismiss on vinyl/cd.

Eargasm · Post by **Eargasm** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:41 pm

Yup Chief, I try to tell people that but they don't believe me. Some guitarists NEED the control of the studio situation to pull-off their riffage. When those guys play live though, you can tell they are not in their element and that they are lacking. But JB is the opposite. His recordings sound great, but NOTHING like seeing him play live. He is a master at taking the audience along a sonic journey. He doesn't just play some songs in concert, he speaks to audience using the music as a language at a really intimate level. One moment he is incredibly powerful, the next he is unbelievably delicate. I've seen a ton of other guitar players but nobody can mesmerize and connect to an audience like Jeff. It's really a whole different level of musicianship and a completely different phenomenon happening than just someone standing on stage and endlessly shredding for two hours.
I am so lucky and grateful to have seen him. It's through that experience that I learned what playing live is really all about.

yngwie308 · Post by **yngwie308** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:46 pm

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