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Re: Finally, "The Schaffer Replica" ready for sale!

Post by SoloDallas » Fri Nov 16, 2012 3:44 am

garbeaj wrote:Just so I'm following this correctly...this is simply a replica of the sounds brought by the receiver, not an actual wireless system? This is all a regular guitar cord, "wired" system?
Yes, this is NOT a wireless system: it is a 1:1 reverse engineering of the audio signal path between the TRANSMITTER (on which the compressor was!) "X10" and the RECEIVER (EX63).
The Schaffer-Vega was in fact a "system" comprised of transmitter & receiver, naturally. We had to reverse engineer the signal path between both - including the transmitter (X10) as the transmitter itself was a BIG part of the sound! So our Replica is a faithful integration of both the X10 and the EX63, together into one unit that looks like the receiver (EX63).

( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schaffer-V ... ity_System" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; )

It is a regular guitar cord operated box (input in the front, output in the rear of our box).
It also has a "pedal" to turn the unit on/off, i.e., from stand by (pass through regular cord signal) to ON (compressor/boost on).

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PS reason for not doing it wireless? Several ones. First off, we wanted to replicate, reproduce and clone everything as originally made as possible (including the components).
Doing this with the original frequency modulation transmitting/receiving system would have been: illegal, overly expensive (talking about several thousands dollars per unit, as it was back then in 1977). Crazy, unfeasible.
This also being an illegal form of transmissions in many countries would have limited sales etc.
We could "transform it" into a wireless unit in the future, but only keeping the audio circuitry faithfully original to the 1977 counterpart (as it is already now); the wireless part would have to be modern.

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Re: Finally, "The Schaffer Replica" ready for sale!

Post by lautmaschine » Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:07 pm

Fil, it sounds great. You've worked hard for a long time to nail the back in black tone, and I think you've got it. Congratulations, honestly, it's a major achievement, and you're playing is incredible.

I hear you say the TSR boosts bass as well. I'm wondering if that might get a big 'flubby' or loose when playing rhythm. If I ever boost the input going into my plexi, I like to roll off a bit of the low end.

The solo-sound coming from you and that box, by the way, is spot on.

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Re: Finally, "The Schaffer Replica" ready for sale!

Post by SoloDallas » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:34 am

lautmaschine wrote:Fil, it sounds great. You've worked hard for a long time to nail the back in black tone, and I think you've got it. Congratulations, honestly, it's a major achievement, and you're playing is incredible.

I hear you say the TSR boosts bass as well. I'm wondering if that might get a big 'flubby' or loose when playing rhythm. If I ever boost the input going into my plexi, I like to roll off a bit of the low end.

The solo-sound coming from you and that box, by the way, is spot on.

Thanks
Thank you and sorry for the delay :peace:
I have tried (and I am still trying: tomorrow I will shoot a video at the recording studio - again - with at least five amp heads and some combos) several amplifiers with the original SVDS and with the Replica, and I have never - not even once - experienced the flubby bass response that you talk about (and that of course, it is known to me). I have no idea of what that would be though.

Will produce some more video and audio tests and report back :rock:

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Post by HTH » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:30 am

I'd be interested in the stompbox when it's ready and also in an actual wireless unit in the future.
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Post by SoloDallas » Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:39 am

HTH wrote:I'd be interested in the stompbox when it's ready and also in an actual wireless unit in the future.
Will keep updated the community about all of this. Stomp box due likely next spring.

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Re: Finally, "The Schaffer Replica" ready for sale!

Post by lautmaschine » Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:04 am

SoloDallas wrote: Thank you and sorry for the delay :peace:
I have tried (and I am still trying: tomorrow I will shoot a video at the recording studio - again - with at least five amp heads and some combos) several amplifiers with the original SVDS and with the Replica, and I have never - not even once - experienced the flubby bass response that you talk about (and that of course, it is known to me). I have no idea of what that would be though.

Will produce some more video and audio tests and report back :rock:
Good to know! I really look forward to hearing more!

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Post by SoloDallas » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:49 am

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Post by SoloDallas » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:47 am

And here's the first of these videos: TSR on Marshall 1987 (from 1973).


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Post by Roe » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:48 am

there's a tread about EVH adn the Schaffer over at plexipalace: http://vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewt ... 1&t=103255
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Post by SoloDallas » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:23 am

Roe wrote:there's a tread about EVH adn the Schaffer over at plexipalace: http://vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewt ... 1&t=103255
HA. Will go there, thanks for the heads up mate.

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Post by SoloDallas » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:33 am

In the meantime, it's a pleasure for me to add two more videos (and amplifiers) to the list.
Each one played with a vintage guitar and a new(er) one.

The Metro-Friedman 1959.
Please note! This amp has been set to very basic settings, likely NOT the settings it is meant to be played with!
These videos are meant to spot the Schaffer Replica own characteristics on different amps, rather than anything else.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgfIbRTnZOg[/youtube]

So, in light of a certain interest in EVH tone with this amp - the Metro-Friedman - and the Schaffer-Vega Diversity, I may (if asked) go more at lengths with this couple of items for a more in depth, EVH oriented thing.

Second video: a 1979 stock Marshall 2203.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFXKN0gBEVw[/youtube]

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Re: Finally, "The Schaffer Replica" ready for sale!

Post by Roe » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:58 am

SoloDallas wrote:
Roe wrote:there's a tread about EVH adn the Schaffer over at plexipalace: http://vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewt ... 1&t=103255
HA. Will go there, thanks for the heads up mate.
found this as well:

Guitar Player (April 1980): Do you use wireless transmitters?

EVH: Yeah, I always do because I bounce around a lot. My first one was a Schaffer-Vega. It took me a long time to get it working right with my system because at the time my amps were so powerful that the thing was overdriven and wouldn't work. It was too much power. Then when I got weaker amps I could use it. If you use it with too high of an amp it will just freak out; you get the weirdest feedback noises you ever heard in your life. And then I got a Nasty Cordless. Now the Schaffer-Vega is tuned to a fixed frequency, and one of the advantages of the Nasty is that you can dial in the frequency, just like a radio. The Schaffer-Vega has a built-in compressor in the transmitter, which is kind of cool, depending on what amp you use it with. I think that the Nasty is weaker. Like with the Schaffer-Vega I'm always reaching at my knob, trying to get 11 out of it instead of 10. And with the Nasty, I'm reaching for 14, so I use an equalizer to boost it. But it is actually a cleaner sounding system. When we played the Budokan in Japan I couldn't use either one because there were heavy radio signals everywhere. (http://www.vhlinks.com/pages/interviews/evh/gp0480.php)
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Re: Finally, "The Schaffer Replica" ready for sale!

Post by SoloDallas » Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:32 pm

Roe wrote:
SoloDallas wrote:
Roe wrote:there's a tread about EVH adn the Schaffer over at plexipalace: http://vintageamps.com/plexiboard/viewt ... 1&t=103255
HA. Will go there, thanks for the heads up mate.
found this as well:

Guitar Player (April 1980): Do you use wireless transmitters?

EVH: Yeah, I always do because I bounce around a lot. My first one was a Schaffer-Vega. It took me a long time to get it working right with my system because at the time my amps were so powerful that the thing was overdriven and wouldn't work. It was too much power. Then when I got weaker amps I could use it. If you use it with too high of an amp it will just freak out; you get the weirdest feedback noises you ever heard in your life. And then I got a Nasty Cordless. Now the Schaffer-Vega is tuned to a fixed frequency, and one of the advantages of the Nasty is that you can dial in the frequency, just like a radio. The Schaffer-Vega has a built-in compressor in the transmitter, which is kind of cool, depending on what amp you use it with. I think that the Nasty is weaker. Like with the Schaffer-Vega I'm always reaching at my knob, trying to get 11 out of it instead of 10. And with the Nasty, I'm reaching for 14, so I use an equalizer to boost it. But it is actually a cleaner sounding system. When we played the Budokan in Japan I couldn't use either one because there were heavy radio signals everywhere. (http://www.vhlinks.com/pages/interviews/evh/gp0480.php)
Roe,
yep thanks - I knew that article. While looking for the Schaffer-Vega when no information on it was available at all, this article came up. It was actually THIS information contained here that helped me to have the intuition that it had to be exactly the components of both the transmitter and the receiver to "change" the sound into something that no one was getting (or not anymore, after those years). So I started looking into the Cetec-Vega on ebay - as the closest thing to the Schaffer-Vega and from there on it went to today.

It was one of the best investigations I have ever done in my life :lol:

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Re: Finally, "The Schaffer Replica" ready for sale!

Post by SoloDallas » Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:08 am

New video out: The Schaffer Replica on a Wizard Vintage Classic :listen:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1VgCQcnWuc[/youtube]

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Re: Finally, "The Schaffer Replica" ready for sale!

Post by yngwie308 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:34 am

Fil, congratulations on the Schaffer Replica! It looks way cool in that plexiglass case.
I can't recall a more thoroughly researched, developed and tested product on the market than this.
Best of luck with all your projects, you are the man!
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