Jeff Beck

NY Chief · Post by **NY Chief** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:44 pm

GREAT Beck interview here.

http://www.modernguitars.com/archives/002562.html

magazine looks pretty cool, too.

ohmygodtheykilledkenny · Post by **ohmygodtheykilledkenny** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:22 pm

Guys which Jeff Beck LP should I look for next?

So far I've got: Truth, Beck-Ola(Cosa Nostra), "Beck, Bogert and Appice", and Blow by Blow.

What tops the list of Beck that I'm missing?

Travis

MacGaden · Post by **MacGaden** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:30 pm

ohmygodtheykilledkenny wrote:Guys which Jeff Beck LP should I look for next?

So far I've got: Truth, Beck-Ola(Cosa Nostra), "Beck, Bogert and Appice", and Blow by Blow.

What tops the list of Beck that I'm missing?

Travis

Wired
Jeff Beck and the Jan Hammer Group live
There and Back
JEFF BECK

ohmygodtheykilledkenny · Post by **ohmygodtheykilledkenny** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:39 pm

Cool MacG. Whats your fave of those? I can only afford to get one at a time.

Travis

yngwie308 · Post by **yngwie308** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:49 pm

How about Rough and Ready, The Jeff Beck Group (Orange album), this period of time was key to the formative nature of a lot of Jeff's later styles.
yngwie308

MacGaden · Post by **MacGaden** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:56 am

ohmygodtheykilledkenny wrote:Cool MacG. Whats your fave of those? I can only afford to get one at a time.

Travis

Guitarshop.

It will blow your mind. Nobody else could have played that stuff. or even have thought about it.. And it is the bridge to where Jeff is today.

Then work your way back and forward. Beck also played solos on a lot of albums, but Jagger

ohmygodtheykilledkenny · Post by **ohmygodtheykilledkenny** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:45 pm

Yng and MacG, I'll keep my eyes open for Rough and Ready, The Jeff Beck Group, and Guitarshop. I love vinyl, cheap and it sounds amazing.

Rough and Ready and the Jeff Beck Group are easily available for about $7-$14 used, minty condition, but I've never seen Guitarshop, so that one will require some searching. I might actually have a copy of She's the Boss, since my parents have questionable musical taste.

Cheers,

Travis

NY Chief · Post by **NY Chief** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:44 am

I can't argue with Mac and Yng!

My fave is Rough & Ready... Situations, Train, Train...damn!

Tonemaster · Post by **Tonemaster** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:15 pm

yngwie308 wrote:How about Rough and Ready, The Jeff Beck Group (Orange album), this period of time was key to the formative nature of a lot of Jeff's later styles.
yngwie308

I'm with you pal. That was his best, most melodic, and to my ear at least, best soloing to date.

T.

NY Chief · Post by **NY Chief** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:35 pm

Tonemaster wrote:
yngwie308 wrote:How about Rough and Ready, The Jeff Beck Group (Orange album), this period of time was key to the formative nature of a lot of Jeff's later styles.
yngwie308
I'm with you pal. That was his best, most melodic, and to my ear at least, best soloing to date.

T.

That was a real "supergroup". Monster players all of 'em. Middleton, Powell, Chaman and Bobby Tench on vocals???? jeezus....

ohmygodtheykilledkenny · Post by **ohmygodtheykilledkenny** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:33 pm

Well, I'm gonna try and scoot down to the used record store on Friday, since I've got a day off..... I'm pretty sure they have the orange album and rough and ready. Can't wait.

Travis

yngwie308 · Post by **yngwie308** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:43 pm

Awesome OMGTKK, you will be amazed, love Train, Train and Siuations, Jody, ect. All amazing tracks, they were originally slagged off fairly heavily by the press at the time, especially the Steve Cropper produced Orange album, and that album wasn't the most pleasant for Jeff, as was the case with Flash, but Jeff always says that...

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Not my review!!.....
Rough And Ready (with Beck Group version 2: 1971)
At first, Beck's loss of Stewart and Wood didn't cost him much. His new backing musicians were all better than the old ones, at least in terms of virtuoso technical ability and seamless integration; what they lacked was the old band's attitude. But at least on this record, Beck took full control of the production and proceeded to milk the new guys for all they were worth. All of the songs are originals, and Beck contributes more than his usual share of compositions - which turn out to be excellent ("Situation"; "I've Been Used"; "Jody"). Max Middleton's jazzy keyboard parts create a new level of sophistication that Beck seems to respond to as a challenge, and Bob Tench emotes like crazy but ends up sounding sincere, at least this time around. Fans of Blow By Blow and Wired will want to head here next. (JA)

The Jeff Beck Group (with Beck Group version 2: 1972)
- Steve Cropper was brought in to produce, and it was a mistake: he opted for putting a pop music sheen on lame covers, and the band responded with dull, uninspired performances ("Glad All Over," not the same as the Dave Clark Five's earlier hit but not a bit less annoying; the old warhorse "Goin' Down," done far better by the Who). The raw talent is still visible in Max Middleton's jazzy piano parts and the rhythm section's thunderous, exacting virtuosity, but the material pushes singer Bob Tench into ridiculous, quasi-soulful Joe Cocker-inspired antics (Dylan's "Tonight I'll Be Staying Here With You"; Stevie Wonder's early effort "I Got To Have A Song"). Despite all this, Beck was climbing to his peak by now, and his flashy brilliance is impossible to ignore - especially on the original numbers: the howling "Ice Cream Cakes"; the soul-drenched "Highways"; and the stately, gut-wrenching, 3/4 time jazz instrumental "Definitely Maybe," which pointed to later triumphs. (JA)
- Tench is over the top, but I find him just as listenable as Stewart, and the band is pretty tasteful on the covers (except for "Goin' Down"). Plus this period was Beck's short-lived peak as a composer -- it's worth checking out. (DBW
http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/mus ... +Ready.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgrlR5vpQeA
This version is speeded up, that's for sure, but gives a taste, the original rocks!!! This band was one of the most awesome I have ever seen!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yI0l3x- ... re=related
The Jeff Beck Group (Mk II): Rough and Ready (1971), ****
Having entirely replaced his backing band, Beck embarked on an almost entirely new sound. It's faster, syncopated, and (dare I say it), slightly funky. Gone are the Elvis covers and hard rock approach; instead, new singer Bob Tench comes close to oversinging ("Jody" is the only time he does) but is a heck of a lot easier to listen to. But the biggest change is the addition of Max Middleton on keys - his role appears to be almost as big as Beck's. That is not to diminish Beck's talents, which he displays admirably with blistering slide work ("Short Business") or blues. Beyond that, "Raynes Park Blues" is a test run for Beck's later fusion work that does not quite gel, but still has some nice Peter Green-esque moments in it. My personal favorite is "New Ways/Train Train", whose first half sounds exactly like Stevie Wonder, and serves a showcase for Beck's talent. With only a few weak spots and nothing embarrassing, this album is great.

The Jeff Beck Group (Mk II) (1972), ***
The cover photos tell all about this album: Tench and Powell look like they are having a great time, Chamen looks skeptical, and Middleton and Beck look bored. To tell the truth, there is plenty to feel bored about on this album. Instead of recording Beck's own tunes (he wrote or co-wrote everything on the previous album), he accounts for only about half of the tracks. When they play a Stevie Wonder song it is thankfully good ("I Got To Have a Song" whose chorus sticks in my head), likewise for a Dylan cover ("Tonight I'll Be Staying Here With You"), but this album has a good amount of tripe. Beck's guitar skills can lift almost any track (his own rather ordinary "Ice Cream Cakes" for one), but songs like the annoyingly dumb pop "Glad All Over" are still bad. Plus, Tench tried to make up with increasingly overwrought vocals whatever musical energy the others lacked. Beck does get into a groove on "Going Down," simply busting into a cool solo (Middleton also has a nice piano into). But they only time the group shines is on "Highways" and the instrumental "Definetely Maybe", with some amazing guitar work (and good Middleton contributions). The rhythm section does a great job like last album; too bad the songs were not as good. Produced by Steve Cropper (who co-wrote the rather weird "Sugar Cane").
Also the "Final Peace" on Wired is one of my favorite Beck songs, makes a tear come to the eye, as his guitar is literally crying:
There & Back (1980), ***1/2
With the exception of a few Hammer tracks, Beck used an entirely new backing band led by keyboardist Tony Hymas and drummer Simon Phillips, who also wrote most of the songs. Hammer is up to his old thing - a couple of songs cluttered up with synths (the disco-ish "You Never Know" which buries Beck), and a rather vanilla attempt to channel Stevie Wonder ("Too Much To Lose"). The new guys do not attempt to overshadow or duel Beck usually; instead, they have a more contemporary atmospheric and level sound ("The Pump"). That is not to say that they are not great musicians in their own right, and the breakneck "Space Boogie" features some outstanding drumming by Phillips, for example. The album's focus is rightly on Beck, and he gets plenty of space to play and deliver some fascinating singing slide work ("El Becko"), along with his other usual moods (mournful in "The Final Peace", or "The Golden Road", another Stevie Wonder sound-alike, but excellent). Granted, some tracks go on for long periods of time, but the songs themselves are strong. Another dazzling display of the Beck comet, showing it hadn't lost anything in his four year studio absence. Co-produced by Beck and Ken Scott.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLWB9YfgXp4
This guy does a nice cover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Jaoa7Au ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVQo96JJ ... re=related
He claims this guitar is actually one of Jeff's and intersting comment about the Wilkinson nut helping the sustain...
it's an actual Jeff Beck. I obtained it a long time ago when he played at Jones Beach here in NY, but you can setup any tremelo to pull up, you just have to adjust the springs and height of the bridge. The wilkinson Roller nut is the key to the sustain. And the nut's on his guitars aren't the ones that come on his sig. strats. I don't know why, but his sig. strat is like his actual strat. the neck on this guitar and the Sig. model feel completely different, and the body cavity is different.

yngwie308

6string · Post by **6string** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:36 am

Check this... from the show "Later.. with Jools Holland" A really great show done at the BBC in London.... four to six acts set up around the perimeter of the room and Jools walks around from act to act.

Here, Beck plays "Drown in My Own Tears" with the house band:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=reuK2msTzec& ... ed&search=

carlygtr56 · Post by **carlygtr56** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:21 pm

Just got this torrent. 2 nights at Ronnie Scott's Jazz Club from late last year.
Eric Clapton guests and a first ever show of Big Town Playboys rockabilly stuff

http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/sho ... =jeff+beck

Tonemaster · Post by **Tonemaster** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 2:18 pm

http://www.mikeverderosa.com/phpBB2/vie ... ad43e11f32

This you Carl??? Your true self.

T.