Gary Moore

yngwie308 · Post by **yngwie308** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:20 am

Just found this on You Tube, I have the bootleg VHS on this Belfast 1989 Concert which was originally simulcast on BBC TV and radio.
Gary is using his Heritage 150, with the PJ Marx and EMG 81 pickups on this version of "Blood of Emeralds", one of my all time favorites of his songs, as it is so powerfully autobiographical, detailing the early history of his band with Phil Lynott and Phil's tragic but inevitable end..
The spoiler for me with this show is Gary is struggling with such a crap amp tone the whole show, but he manfully gets on with it. It was when he was using all those early JCM 800's and I think they must have been rentals or something. His notes lose sustain and die out, with quite a few different guitars during the show..
But this is such a beautiful song, also the extended version of Military Man from this show is most awesome.
The comments on You Tube are as usual incorrect. Gary never played the real Gary Moore Heritage Signature model live or on record as far as I know, also I believe he doesn't even own one... The CM-150 he is playing he also used at the Montruex show, on The Stumble and All Your Loving.
If you notice Gary is looking back at his tech during the song, ect.
He is having a feedback/monitor issue vrs the amp tone just being dreadful, which is a shame as he plays brilliantly during this concert. The acoustic version of Johnny Boy from this show, is also very emotional as well...
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yngwie308

Twistingcrow · Post by **Twistingcrow** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:59 am

Thanks Dave!
I didn't know that there was a video of BoE somewhere out there. What a great song! Do you happen to have a link to the Johnny Boy version you're talking about? I can't find it on Youtube!
My favourite songs from this period are Military Man turning into Empty Rooms, live in Stockholm 1987. This combo is just pure rock balls and crying soul. Awesome!
And by the way Yngwie could tell us more about that red strat (if it is a strat) with only ONE pickup and ONE pot he used in Stockholm? The sounds he can coax out of this beast are just incredible!

flieger67 · Post by **flieger67** » Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:44 am

yngwie308 wrote: The comments on You Tube are as usual incorrect. Gary never played the real Gary Moore Heritage Signature model live or on record as far as I know, also I believe he doesn't even own one... The CM-150 he is playing he also used at the Montruex show, on The Stumble and All Your Loving.
yngwie308

That's interesting. I never knew if Gary actually used the Heritage GM. It's kind of intriguing how many actual or implied signature models were never used by the namesake artist.

Yngwie - do you have any info about how the Heritage GM model came about and why Gary didn't end up using it? A buddy of mine was Heritage dealer back in those days but I don't recall him ever having a GM in stock.

yngwie308 · Post by **yngwie308** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:31 am

Heritage Gary Moore Models

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I will find the story and post it, it is fairly involved, Gary had a falling out with Heritage after they decided to make another 75 guitars, after the first lot was all he had signed for, the Amber Bursts. Then Heritage decided to make a second series of 75 in Almond Burst, apparently Gary was not well pleased and never owned one or ever played his own Heritage Signature model. I have one of each series..
yngwie308

spaceace76 · Post by **spaceace76** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:39 am

Wow

Those flame pickguards are sexy!

Tonemaster · Post by **Tonemaster** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:24 am

yngwie308 wrote:Heritage Gary Moore Models

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I will find the story and post it, it is fairly involved, Gary had a falling out with Heritage after they decided to make another 75 guitars, after the first lot was all he had signed for, the Amber Bursts. Then Heritage decided to make a second series of 75 in Almond Burst, apparently Gary was not well pleased and never owned one or ever played his own Heritage Signature model. I have one of each series..
yngwie308

Man, you ARE a devotee of Mr. Moore aren't you??

T.

Twistingcrow · Post by **Twistingcrow** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:22 pm

Man, you ARE a devotee of Mr. Moore aren't you??

T.

Dude I think, and I'm not the only one here, that you are most unwelcome on this topic after the whole thing that has been going on on the last few pages. Yngwie knows a lot more than we all do about Gary Moore and it's a good reason enough to respect his commitment to this wonderfully gifted musician. Despising Dave, the guitars that he has and his love for Moore doesn't bring anything consistent and worth reading here. I know you will say that there are no harsh or rude words in your post but if we take what you've written before into consideration then it's more than enough! So unless you have a more constructive approach I suggest that you go and throw your contempt at someone else.

The readers right here want to know more about Moore, not about Mr. Tonemaster's opinion about Moore or Dave.
Cheers!

Tonemaster · Post by **Tonemaster** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:55 pm

WTF!!! I meant that with the utmost sincerity!!! He went out and bought all those guitars, and I am not challenging his knowledge or questioning his informantion on Gary Moore. To go to the expense of buying all those signature guitars shows devotion, and some would say, obsession. Each to his own, and Yngie my hat is off to you for your commitment!!

Mr. Crow, that is all I meant by my last post,,,,,Dude,,

Omn · Post by **Omn** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:26 pm

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The net can be like a curtain... It is not like talking eye to eye. So things can "interpreted" wrong. I have to kick myself at times as fault can be by the receiver (my) and not the sender. We carry our loads, history if you will and this may be bluring our view. I think this is what happened here...
Let us just draw a line in the sand - it stops here. What is said is gone. And let us just move on.
Let it slide.

Flames1950 · Post by **Flames1950** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:44 pm

Omn wrote: Let us just draw a line in the sand - it stops here. What is said is gone. And let us just move on.

Good idea, as this thread is pushing the point of forced extinction. Time to cut the bickering.

Tonemaster · Post by **Tonemaster** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:51 pm

Done deal.

T.

yngwie308 · Post by **yngwie308** » Fri Jul 10, 2009 9:39 pm

Gary promo video for the "Emerald Isles" video..
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Can't remember if I posted these before, but the Emerald Isles video was the first I up converted from VHS to DVD, thanks to NY Chief!!

yngwie308 · Post by **yngwie308** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:37 pm

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Rare interview with Gary about Greeny and Peter Green..
yngwie308

flieger67 · Post by **flieger67** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:38 pm

Wow - cool pics of the Heritage GM, YJM308! I like the pickguard and the fact that it has those style of inlays instead of dots. The EMG's are rather a surprise. Did Gary request those and did he use EMG's in other axes? I usually think of Gary as preferring passive pickups but I don't have near the depth of knowledge on Gary and his gear as you do.

yngwie308 · Post by **yngwie308** » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:14 pm

The Heritages were built as a kind of tribute to Greeny. Gary first had the only Heritage I have known him to own, the 150 model with the stock Schaller roller bridge and quick release stop tailpiece. I debated ABR-1 TOM vrs Gotoh Nashville with these and actually the spacing is slightly different for the Nashville, so John Zeidler make it work, I have never regretted not using the Nashvilles as they are most suitable for these very heavy guitars, close to 11 lbs each, with the Grovers and active electronics, ect.
Gary used EMG 81's and 85's in his various Charvels, most famously the white and red ones with the single EMG pickups and OFR's he used in 1986 and 1987's Wild Frontier tour. This Heritage built for Gary has a PJ Marx pickup in the neck and an EMG 81 on the bridge, plus the stock hardware and frets, ect.
The 1990 Montreux Jazz festival clips, were the last time Gary used any active pickups in concert. He did have a Fritz Brothers Roy Buchanon model type Tele, which had single coil EMG-SA's in it I believe, the last time I saw that guitar was on the live VHS tape "Blues Alive" which is based on the "After Hours" LP material. Gary using it on his "Texas Blues" song.
He has used a specialty pickup winders pickups, Tom Holmes I believe in his Custom Shop Les Pauls, particularly the one he uses these days with the reversed neck pickup, for the PG/Parisienne Walkways type material. He even has a charcoal grey LP with a quilt maple top, he uses this on the "One Night in Dublin: DVD.
Let me just say this about the previous things that have happened in this thread. I had all the replies blocked and just today at work noticed a reply in particular suggesting I had a Gary Moore 'obsession', ect. I did have a collection of Gary Moore memorabilia, which I stopped years ago and I only have two GM Heritages, because in my anxiety about getting one of the only 75 made worldwide, I ordered one from a local Pennsylvania dealer for Heritage, spoke with the factory and happened to find out that Manny's had one in stock. I immediately bought the one from Manny's over the phone. It turned out to be one of the first 75 made, which was what Gary had signed up for to lend his name to the guitar. These are the Amber Burst ones, made to look like a faded Les Paul Standard, like Greeny, ect. When I received the GM Heritage I had ordered from Heritage, through ABC Music in Pa., imagine my suprise when I opened the case, which was different than the first series cases, which are rectangular, like a Fender case, but thicker obviously for a LP type guitar. This one had a moore form fitted case, more a fitted shape than say a Lifton, but different, and imagine my even moore suprise when I pulled back the tissue paper covering the guitar inside the case and it was a different color!!
It was called Almond Burst and when I talked to I think Jim D. at Heritage, he told me they had sold out the first 75 so quickly, that with all the tooling up and production costs, ect (in so many words, he said this), that they decided to do only one moore run of 75 worldwide and that would be it. They chose a moore unfaded type burst finish and it is quite beautiful in person, my cheap camera, hardly does any of them justice, but they are gorgeous guitars in real life.
It isn't dark as a Darkburst and is a different shade than say a cherry sunburst. The exquisite maple pick guards, are book matched to the tops, which are also book matched as well. Let me state, not many real '59 Bursts were exactly book matched in the tradition of the more modern reissues!
So the Heritage guy told me, that Gary was less than thrilled that they had decided in making another 75 guitars, which worldwide is still not that many, but gary probably wasn't paid for the second series royalties (my educated guess) and so never had possession of GM Heritage #1, and he later sold the CM-150 which was the genesis of the Gary Moore Heritage. He never ever mentions them after 1992 or so at all. He uses the Heritage on the "After The War" tour in 1989 and at said Montruex Jazz fesival appearance, on three songs at the beginning of the show and that is the last time I ever saw or heard of it being in Gary's possesion.
Why Heritage choose to use two EMG81's, is probably because the PJ Marx's were too limited and actually the EMG 81 in the neck is quite mellow on this guitar, as opposed to the standard EMG HB configuration, which is the silver lettered EMG 81 in the bridge position and the gold lettered EMG 85 in the neck, which most guys used.
The way my guitars were practically rebuilt when brand new by one of the most skilled luthiers in the States in my opinion, John Zeidler, makes them unique and I have told Tom Witterock on the LPF, that he needs to play one of mine at a show sometime and I know he will be impressed, even though TW still says they aren't real LP's, ect., and that these guys weren't the original 1950's Kalamazoo guys, but instead Norlin era guys. The Bridgeports and other machinery that Heritage bought when formed from Gibson when they moved to Nashville, are the original equipment used to produce the fabled golden '50's era classic Gibsons though!
These guitars are so well built that it is incredible, the rival of any Hamer Talladega or big buck custom made guitars these days.
The necks have a slim '60's LP shape slightly oval and are very fast playing, plus with the fingerboards being leveled by John Zeidler and his masterful refret with the stainless steel medium wide oval frets (DiMarzio fretwire), which is rare. That was John's idea and I have used several gauges of strings on these guitars with nuch success. Imagine the baddest ass LP neck and board with killer frets, that you could imagine, with unbelievable set ups, you can bend up two whole steps anywhere and it is a joy to play. I am very proud of these guitars, as i did not care for the factory frets, the leveling was poor, hated the roller bridge where you could alter the string spacing (why?), ect. Now they rock and I would love for Steve Stevens, if I ever meet him in person, to play as he loves LP's these days.
Ok enough of my waxing lyrical about these tone monsters, but they really are that cool!
I was nervous having both guitars modded at the same time and with them being so limited, but I went for it and have never regretted it!
Now that John Zeidler is no longer with us, sadly claimed by leukemia in his early thirties I believe..I feel some of John's great touch and soul in these guitars and that is another reason why they are so special to me...
I am not obsessed with any artists, Yngwie, Gary, Peter Green, Jimi, Steve Stevens, Jeff Beck, Tommy Bolin, ect...but I do get into them as heavily as one can and read and absorb and listen to all their music. Plus I study into minute detail, everything about their techniques, styles and histories, guitars and amps used.
This comes from my technical background, which was I sort of born with and honed in my electronics career, before.
I admire a wide rande of guitarists and styles of music and used to study all the old English music newspapers in the old days, Melody Maker, Sounds, ect., and read about all the gear used by the bands of the late sixties and seventies. Plus my experiences at Jim Marshall's London shop, where it was like a trip to nirvana, whenever I went, these are memories I will never forget and I was honored when George modded my 1959HW and asked my opinion of how it sounded compared to all the old and then new Marshalls I had heard as a teenager!!
On my new site, all my guitars have a certain story about them, some of which i have detailed before, but many not, each instrument I own I buy to keep and not sell, the ones I had to sell is different.
So much moore about Gary's guitars, amps anything you want to know, ask!
You know Peter Green used in the first Fleetwood Mac, a Selmer 100 watt PA head with two T-60 Vox cabinets, no one else could make it sound like Peter, just magical
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