First shot

St August · Post by **St August** » Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:38 pm

At recording Real drums.. After spending time with DFHS I thought it was time to give it a shot...

http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplaye ... 55404&q=hi

toner · Post by **toner** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:06 pm

St August wrote:At recording Real drums.. After spending time with DFHS I thought it was time to give it a shot...

What's DFHS?

It sounds good but I would suggest the following just based on personal preferences:
- more bass and less treble on the kick
- less treble (or less bass roll-off) on the cymbals
- lower or remove the reverb send for the kick and cymbals

Is that a phaser on the guitar? Post recording or direct into the amp? It's subtle and sounds good in the mix!

JimiJames · Post by **JimiJames** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:53 pm

Just listening to the drums only...

Reverb is a little thick. Especially in the snare.
Should be tight IMO
compressed reverb would be good so that when hit it swells and not simultaneously explodes with every hit.
Kick needs less high end freq. More thump I guess
Toms are weakest in the entire mix.

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St August · Post by **St August** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:57 pm

Yeh I know I know .. Im working on it. it only takes time so the more i do it the better it will get .. Going to do more drums on Weds evening .. and Ill try the cmp on the reverb and see how that works out,,,

St August · Post by **St August** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:59 pm

toner wrote:
St August wrote:At recording Real drums.. After spending time with DFHS I thought it was time to give it a shot...
What's DFHS?

Drumkit From Hell Superior

its a Toon Track product Midi samples of really good drums ,with really good mics done in a really good studio unlike mine....

NitroLiq · Post by **NitroLiq** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:06 am

Jerry,

Do a search a for an instrument frequency chart if you can find one. Typically, the transient for the kick (the beater click) will be around 1k and the oomph between (60-100Hz). The latter also goes for the lower end of the Bass. Just try to keep them from sharing the same frequency (so something like 100hz for the kick and 60 for the bass would be good). Of course, all this depends on the actual drums but generally speaking that's how I approach things.

Pete

JimiJames · Post by **JimiJames** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:39 pm

Hey, that's a nice tip !

We worked a trade show last year that had a huge United States Frequency Allocations Radio Spectrum chart in the middle of the floor . (Some kind of Airline show).... Never dawned on me there would be one for instruments...( don't worry, I changed my lite bulb

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Question ???... is there software for this that tells you the freq for each individual instrument in the mix or is this just manually done with the help of a chart ?

These instrument freq charts are the ticket for a descent recording me thinks.

Thanks.

NitroLiq · Post by **NitroLiq** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:36 pm

Here's a chart I came across online that may be fun to tool with:

http://www.ka5cvh.com/downloads/musicchart1.pdf

I can't stress enough that what I said is a very general. This won't work in all scenarios and there's no magic cut/boost frequency that's going to make your kick sound like "When the Levee Breaks" . The most important thing is really just using your ear and try to give each instrument its own space. Also, set up time to do some critical listening to albums you admire the mixes on.

St August · Post by **St August** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 3:13 pm

NitroLiq wrote:Jerry,

Do a search a for an instrument frequency chart if you can find one. Typically, the transient for the kick (the beater click) will be around 1k and the oomph between (60-100Hz). The latter also goes for the lower end of the Bass. Just try to keep them from sharing the same frequency (so something like 100hz for the kick and 60 for the bass would be good). Of course, all this depends on the actual drums but generally speaking that's how I approach things.

Pete

thanks Pete I know you got studio time under your belt
And I will look for the charts Thanks for the tip

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