FLOYD ROSE LICENSE TREMS

nitro · Post by **nitro** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 12:31 pm

Are the floyd rose license trems any good vs the original floyd roses i know that mighty mite and gotoh make one what do you think ?

45auto · Post by **45auto** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:18 pm

surely some are ok. BUT buyer beware. i just ebayed one "floyd rose licensed locking trem" just to find out it was SINGLE locking. mounted it up thinking maybe this style would work, but it drops out of tune just like the stock fender type. now i'm trying to retrofit some locking saddle sinto the damn thing...

http://forum.metroamp.com/viewtopic.php?t=7829

Tone Slinger · Post by **Tone Slinger** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:53 pm

You know, the" origional" Floyd Rose made today is made in Germany. As I recall my origional 80's Floyd was very similar in tone and overall metal construction. I spent lots of years with the Jackson Floyd copy as well. The Jacksons were cast metal as opposed to the Floyd's "Forged" I think is the word, construction. The jacksons wear out quicker. Some have said that the newer Floyd's arent as good as the older ones. something about the metal not being as good. I cant tell hardly any difference in construction quality. Still very solid,well made unit's.

Post by **Scumback Speakers** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:34 pm

The Peavey model I have in my Wolfgang works fine, so I've got no complaints. I had an original and a Jackson made one years ago, and they all performed fine...considering I like the strings to just flop/hang every once in a while, I couldn't ask any more than it came back in tune.

JimiJames · Post by **JimiJames** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:46 pm

Yes the Originals are more dense and seem to chime better.
I really hated how sloppy the whammy bar feels though.

I like the Kahler Spyders. Well made...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Mid-80s-KAH ... dZViewItem
But I hate the cheapass allen screws they use.

My fav's and one I use most are the Ibanez Edge second to the LoPro's.
http://cgi.ebay.com/IBANEZ-EDGE-FLOYD-R ... dZViewItem
Absolutely THE Best whammy out there hands down.

(I have this one finally installed after 1 1/2 years later 'cause I couldn't get a schematic and no one knew how to decifer the damn wiring.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Ibanez-edge-with-pi ... dZViewItem
Walk into my neighborhood music store and found the exact bridge. The owner let me take it home for a day! The reward was huge !)

Gotoh's & Wilkinson's are good and the new Fender with the push-in whammy is real good if your into that. (Have it on my 54Ann.)
I have found most others not metioned here to be....... let's say.... SHIT !

Jimmie K.

Tone Slinger · Post by **Tone Slinger** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:32 pm

Stay away from the lower line models that were stock on a lot of the 80's budget priced Kramers. They look fairly similar to "real deal" Floyd's, but will not stay in tune. They have to be clipped(balls that is) ouch ! at the bridge where they should be locked. If buying on line, ask that question. I also agree that the Floyd liscensed Peavy tremelo is very good. I cant comment on the Ibanez trem's since the only one's I've tried were attached to Ibanez guitars, which I dispise, maybe I'd like them on a genuine strat type build though.

JimiJames · Post by **JimiJames** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:08 pm

Tone Slinger wrote:Stay away from the lower line models that were stock on a lot of the 80's budget priced Kramers. They look fairly similar to "real deal" Floyd's, but will not stay in tune. They have to be clipped(balls that is) ouch ! at the bridge where they should be locked. If buying on line, ask that question. I also agree that the Floyd liscensed Peavy tremelo is very good. I cant comment on the Ibanez trem's since the only one's I've tried were attached to Ibanez guitars, which I dispise, maybe I'd like them on a genuine strat type build though.

Reiterating that anything other than the Ibanez "EDGE" or LoPro's on Ibanez's suck. I too dispise the other style Roses on the Ibanez's.
Cheap dead sounding pot metal. They do their job for what they were intended to. Dive bomb... The kiddies love'em !

Jimmie K.

Tone Slinger · Post by **Tone Slinger** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:07 pm

I know this is a little off topic, but has anyone ever noticed how an origional Floyd new or old, gives a guitar an immidiate dose of EVH. Even the pre Fair Warning stuff, where he wasnt even recording with one. The palm mutes and increased attack they give kinda make any decent amp have a little brown sound quality.

yngwie308 · Post by **yngwie308** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:08 am

I know I am on foriegn soil here but the last great Original Floyd Rose tremeloes were the ones market by FMC,in the mid nineties,the gold one I replaced the crap Schaller OFR on my Steve Stevens SS80,is as great as my OFR on my '80s Hamer.Stealth post from Malmsteen land.

BrownSound1 · Post by **BrownSound1** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:11 am

I always thought that the original Floyds were made by Schaller to begin with. I've got OFR on an old Kramer that says Made In Germany, and many have stated that the Schaller licensed was the exact same as the OFR. Never used the Schaller licensed one, so I can't say for sure.

I do know to stay away from anything saying Floyd Rose II on them. Those things are stamped, so you can imagine how crappy they are.

Tone Slinger · Post by **Tone Slinger** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:10 am

All of the OFR trems I've encountered have been very good. Staying in tune is very important, as well as the actual range and response of the tremelo. A Floyd or similar equivalent, will give a much more pronounced effect. It can be subtle like an origional Fender tremelo, just takes a little practice. The bad floyds went out of tune worse than anything. Such a pain in the ass playin other's guitars with those units.

yngwie308 · Post by **yngwie308** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:45 pm

There was a mechanical problem with the Schaller under liscence tremeloes used by Washburn at that time,circa '94.
The Floyd Rose Original is sonically the best,Gary Moore I remember said he noticed a difference in the black anodized versions,and prefered the chrome versions mid eighties.
I prefer the flat mount to the body,with no bottom rout,much better sound transfer.Steve Vai gets a great sound out of his Jem Ibanez type Floyds,but uses a lot of processing as well though.

Tone Slinger · Post by **Tone Slinger** » Sat Nov 18, 2006 7:53 pm

Yeah , I cut my teeth so to speak with the Floyd Rose listening to EVH, DeMartini, Lynch and Dio era Vivian Campbell ( Nice Moore influence to his solo's back then ) They all were using Floyd's so I had to get one. I go through phases with other guitars ( stock strats, Gibson's etc) Alway's end up with Floyd strat. Mentioning Gary Moore just reminds me how sad I feel for him that he has to sell that '59 Les Paul of his. I love his solo's in "With Love" off of the Thin Lizzy "Black Rose" album. That had to be his '59 Paul.

BrownSound1 · Post by **BrownSound1** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 3:53 am

yngwie308 wrote:There was a mechanical problem with the Schaller under liscence tremeloes used by Washburn at that time,circa '94.
The Floyd Rose Original is sonically the best,Gary Moore I remember said he noticed a difference in the black anodized versions,and prefered the chrome versions mid eighties.
I prefer the flat mount to the body,with no bottom rout,much better sound transfer.Steve Vai gets a great sound out of his Jem Ibanez type Floyds,but uses a lot of processing as well though.

I flush mount mine too, but that's more for tuning stability if I break a string.

I also hate for them to float because I can't palm mute or bend one string and hit another without it going out of whack. Been playing too long to change my technique now.

Tone Slinger · Post by **Tone Slinger** » Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:19 pm

I'm the same for the same reasons, did alot of learning in the 80's.