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SEYMOUR DUNCAN EVH VS CHARVEL EVH HUMBUCKER...NOT THE SAME?!

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:52 pm
by MARCO
Does anyone know who makes the EVH humbucker in the Charvel ART Series EVH guitars...I heard it is NOT the same as the Seymour Duncan EVH....anyone???

Re: SEYMOUR DUNCAN EVH VS CHARVEL EVH HUMBUCKER...NOT THE SA

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:07 pm
by rockstah
MARCO wrote:Does anyone know who makes the EVH humbucker in the Charvel ART Series EVH guitars...I heard it is NOT the same as the Seymour Duncan EVH....anyone???
where did u hear that?

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:36 pm
by MARCO
From a reliable source....all I am asking is if it is true or not or if someone knows otherwise.

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:38 pm
by rockstah
MARCO wrote:From a reliable source....all I am asking is if it is true or not or if someone knows otherwise.
like i said where did u hear that? if its a reliable source then why are asking if its true?

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:50 pm
by MARCO
I heard it was true but i wanted to know if anyone else knew anything about it. you cant assume they use the SD's.......it was a guy who worked at the charvel factory.

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:55 pm
by rockstah
MARCO wrote:I heard it was true but i wanted to know if anyone else knew anything about it. you cant assume they use the SD's.......it was a guy who worked at the charvel factory.
never heard that but again never paid much attention to them there guitars.... so who did he say made the pickups. :?

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:31 pm
by Bainzy
Apparently they are wound by Fender. The only Charvels I know of with the SD "EVH" or "78" pickup are the San Dimas bullseye replicas.

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:40 pm
by Tone Slinger
Two different pick-up's. The Charvel EVH pick-up is a lot hotter than the SD EVH. I read in some mag that the Charvel pick-up is indeed a Fender and that it was similar to a SD JB.

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:21 pm
by yngwie308
I read that it was built by Fender too,when the guitar first came out.
To Edwards specification,it said.

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:58 pm
by BrownSound1
Seems like I heard that the EVH'78 was based off the pickup from his Frankie, but as Ed's tastes have changed he likes hotter pickups...apparently to push his buzzy 5150s into fuzzville. :)

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:40 pm
by mightymike
I've tried and heard a couple Seymour Duncans get great VH tone. Like a SH5 over 20 years ago, and even JBs. So I don't doubt that the EVH 78 sounds every bit as good, but I'd rather geta Darkburst with an A2 Magnet, or a High Order A2 8.7k assymetrical wind. All these are great choices thgat I know work.

I don't know about the Charvels. I'm a little gun shy after all the Peavey stuff.

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:35 pm
by Tone Slinger
Well you know how playing a stock strat sounds through an amp thats moderatly distortin ? Wish you had a bit more gain/sustain, well thats a decent analogy of a lower output humbucker compared to a higher output one. The only guitars that are made now in any numbers that have good feeling necks and flush mount Floyd Rose tremelos are the Peavys and Charvels.

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:29 am
by mightymike
I don't like the way High output Pickups sound through my plexis, or the way those big tremolos suck a lot of the tone away. I like the 8.5k to 9k range for VH. But even the Higher imp JB sounds good to, and it's A5, and is in my signature at the bottom. So go figure..

I like these pickups in a strat with the Vintage trem, like a mid 90s MIJ 62 RI that can be had for $600 on Ebay, then pop in a $60 High Order A2 8.7k Assymetrical wind Humbucker, or a $140 A2 Darkburst in the bridge, and you're closer to the guitar on the First Album than those EVH Charvels that cost thousands. Then later on if you want to put a custom neck you can, but the neck on these are nice as is.

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:19 pm
by Tone Slinger
I agree about the tone of the vintage bridge being better, but if you use a bar alot, especially in a live situation it helps to stay in tune, so that the rest of the band doesnt get mad. I have heard people say they can keep a stock strat in tune, but thats just what thier mouths are sayin. Ed and Yngwie come, or in Ed's case came the closest, but no cigar. If you want the first album guitar( front loaded ash body,21 fret maple neck, etc) get a 70's reissue strat off of e-bay for around $400 . Drop a mini seymour duncan in the bridge or rout for a full sized humbucker. Thats it, your done. You got the correct wood, bridge and neck. Northern and southern ash sound very similar. Get the neck refretted, when your ready ,to 6105 fret wire and have the fret board radius flattened to about a '12. Then you would have almost the same guitar.

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:44 am
by mightymike
I haven't compared Northern Ash to Swamp Ash personally.
Everywhere I've read where Northern Ash was different tonally (darker and heavier), than Swamp Ash (lighter and Brighter) My main guitar in my sound clips is a Swamp Ash body, with KOA top,that I think sounds great with a JB for VH. But hey if they're the same as Northern Ash.. great. :D

There's some people on Ebay selling replacement Bodies in all kinds of woods, including ASH
Some bare, some loaded.
I want an ASh or Korina one painted black but with the Vintage Bridge Installed, but no pickguard and then I might take my neck off my HM start, and use that until I have Warmoth build me a custom neck.

I already have a Darkburst and a Pickguard with a slanted Hum enroute.

Even If I buid this guitar I would try to copy my Brian Moore C90 neck.
That thing plays like butter, the fast easiest neck I've ever played.
I like it better than the Wizard cut, or Charvel Necks, and I like the finish so that you don't get all those finger marks, and it makes it quicker.

Supposedly Ed used a Brass nut and kept it oiled.
It's a battle to keep these in tune, but the dynamics
are just so much better, that's it's worth it.

I wonder how much a locking headnut sucks tone.
What if you used a Fender Vintage Trem, but use a Neck with a locking nut. It would make it stay in tune better, and the bridge wouldn't be a tone sucker.