DSD clone clip

[Strat78]

Here is a pretty damn good 70's DSD clone that JimiJames is letting me try out. Just ignore the horrible recording and other noises. This is a Manlius and it comes in at 13k with a C8 mag with steel shim.
https://soundcloud.com/iskra68/dsd-manlius2014

[Tone Slinger]

Phil, that was real good bro, totally enjoyed it. That DSD clone cant go wrong in a guitar of yours (through an amp of yours)

[efraser68]

Love it Phil and probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference with a real 70s DSD.

[rgorke]

Two thoughts 1) I think it shows that that tone is predominantly from the amp and player; and, 2) this sounds like a great representation of the DSD.

How much were these?

[mapat]

Sounds really good!

Moar clips plz.

Two thoughts 1) I think it shows that that tone is predominantly from the amp and player; and, 2) this sounds like a great representation of the DSD.

How much were these?

Roger, it looks like these run $90.

http://www.manliusguitar.com/products/7 ... r-d-bridge

[Strat78]

Nice pickup for $90! I just spent the evening changing out the tremolo and neck and wiring in a tone knob. It had an old warmoth neck that was making a horrible pinging sound, so I swapped in a Musikraft. I'll try to do some more clips tomorrow, maybe with two daisy chained amps.

[EJSLPlexi]

I had one of these manlius DSD clones new in the box for sale in the classifieds here and no one wanted it?
I was only asking $45 shipped for it. I wound up selling it elsewhere

[Strat78]

What did you think of that pickup? I know you have done allot of comparisons with newer production pickups. I thought it was a little weaker output wise than some of the original DSD's I have, but I actually think it has a little more character because of this. I should say that that clip was also with the 6-band. Seemed to complement each other better than other pickups. This clip was with the JB and the same settings on the MXR, way too hot, should have cut way back, but by that time my ears were pretty numb. The DSD clone had wonderful controlled feedback, I couldn't get anything going with the JB as you can hear.
https://soundcloud.com/iskra68/jb3

[xray]

I bought that pickup form EJSLPlexi. I have two actually, one in my Greco Destroyer and the other in my Franky style strat.I like the pickup a lot more than the modern Dimarzio. As other have said more open less hot, less dark. It did make a positve difference in the overall tone.

[EJSLPlexi]

What did you think of that pickup? I know you have done allot of comparisons with newer production pickups. I thought it was a little weaker output wise than some of the original DSD's I have, but I actually think it has a little more character because of this. I should say that that clip was also with the 6-band. Seemed to complement each other better than other pickups. This clip was with the JB and the same settings on the MXR, way too hot, should have cut way back, but by that time my ears were pretty numb. The DSD clone had wonderful controlled feedback, I couldn't get anything going with the JB as you can hear.
https://soundcloud.com/iskra68/jb3

It was definitely like a old DSD but potted.
I cant really get on board with a DSD being used for VH I which is one of the reasons i sold it.
The eq is not right,it has the gain but others things are wrong about it.
it does not have the nuance and articulation eddie's strat tone had.
in my own personal experience the old duncan custom or the 1800 comes a lot closer.
something tells me there is a missing part of the signal chain for that VH I tone.
maybe he really was using a less hot output pu' like the 78 but got his extra drive another way

[Tone Slinger]

Yep, there was an 'x' factor imo. Lots of things to do to a 'stock' plexi to get it there WITHOUT any extranious stuff (ep3, 6 band etc). But in Ed's case, it WAS the extranious stuff,particuarly a variac and a 6 band eq.

You wanna hear Ed's 12xxx with an ash strat (maybe it was the Franky or the other Azusa with the danelectro neck & Tele pu's) WITHOUT anything else, listen to the rhythm trackof 'Bottoms Up'. THAT tone needed a little help, BUT, is representative of a stock plexi and a bright guitar. Now, listen to 'Your No Good' or 'SGMAD' or 'Beautiful Girls' and you hear that amp with a 6 band slamming the front of it. Bray, amongst a few others, can dial in similar tones using the plexi foundation alone imo.

[Strat78]

Ben's amp was pretty much stock except for the 2.2k OT. For some reason that amp was right in the pocket without any 6-band or big ceramic push. This was with a Destroyer with Super70 pickups. It's a little looser sounding than Ed's tone but is pretty close for just a basic setup. Ed comes in at :33
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11273486
I still think the DSD is a contender. That Little dreamer riff should have the volume backed off on the guitar a little bit to get a little more quack or attack into the tone, next clip I will do that. This is deffinately an ongoing thing, I'll try my 78 next, then the 1800 with the same riff, heaven knows I never get tired of playing that damn thing.

[EJSLPlexi]

Ben's amp was pretty much stock except for the 2.2k OT. For some reason that amp was right in the pocket without any 6-band or big ceramic push. This was with a Destroyer with Super70 pickups. It's a little looser sounding than Ed's tone but is pretty close for just a basic setup. Ed comes in at :33
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11273486
I still think the DSD is a contender. That Little dreamer riff should have the volume backed off on the guitar a little bit to get a little more quack or attack into the tone, next clip I will do that. This is deffinately an ongoing thing, I'll try my 78 next, then the 1800 with the same riff, heaven knows I never get tired of playing that damn thing.

That amp(ben's) is sick! I heard a few clips of it and would say it is the closest to ed's 12301 i ever heard.
Some plexi's did have more gain than others but on VH I even eddie is using other things to get the extra gain.
VH II is a perfect example of the 12301 without a hotter pu and other devices.
would love to hear bens amp with a duncan 78 in a ash strat(fender trem) and mxr eg,ep3's etc.

[Star*Guitar]

The first clip with the DSD clone is the closest. That feedback lets you get the most out of a note and you do that well Phil! That must be a blast to play with. A contender for sure.

I am not a fan of the JB. There is something about the mids is has always been off. The truncated feedback/sustain is another shortfall.

[Ed_Number1]

What did you think of that pickup? I know you have done allot of comparisons with newer production pickups. I thought it was a little weaker output wise than some of the original DSD's I have, but I actually think it has a little more character because of this. I should say that that clip was also with the 6-band. Seemed to complement each other better than other pickups. This clip was with the JB and the same settings on the MXR, way too hot, should have cut way back, but by that time my ears were pretty numb. The DSD clone had wonderful controlled feedback, I couldn't get anything going with the JB as you can hear.
https://soundcloud.com/iskra68/jb3

It was definitely like a old DSD but potted.
I cant really get on board with a DSD being used for VH I which is one of the reasons i sold it.
The eq is not right,it has the gain but others things are wrong about it.
it does not have the nuance and articulation eddie's strat tone had.
in my own personal experience the old duncan custom or the 1800 comes a lot closer.
something tells me there is a missing part of the signal chain for that VH I tone.
maybe he really was using a less hot output pu' like the 78 but got his extra drive another way

+1 its not a DSD.