Anyone try 6L6's in a Plexi?

[dirtycooter]

I immediatly noted a guy using a plexi playin a bar I went to and I told him "you are running 6L6's aren't you?"
He looked kinda suprised that I could tell that from listening to their last set. He showed me and sure enough thats what was in it. He was really suprised I picked it right out. It was so round fat and full it was crazy.
I have to say the tone was really nice. I thought it sounded amazing for the hendrixy thing he gravitated toward as a player.
But I wonder how they stack up for VH?
6CA7 is way more like a 6L6. They are both beam forming tetrodes. EL34 is nothing at all the same.
Anyone do any heavy experimenting with this?
Has anyone compared a good set of 6ca7 to a 6L6? Then a EL34? Is this a reason dipshit now uses the 6L6 currently?
I am intrigued to know.
What would be cool is for someone here doin the tone close in clips with a plexi with 34's to pop in a set of 6L6's.
I think we are walkin past this tube to be honest. 6L6 touts many tonal traits and not just construction wise of the 6C from what I have read.

[awangotango]

I had a soldano HR50 which is basically a jcm800 with 6l6's and it was killer. Yes you can get as good eddie tones as an el34. You just need to tweek a few things by ear and done. It's a great tube. Tighter than an el34 and a little less mids but not radiaclly different than el34 . Whetehr you can just pop them and and be happy is poissible but i'd have my soldering iron heated up and ready to go.

[Carbia]

I tried a 1987 Marshall with Tung Sol 6L6's... didn't like it too much. I prefer the EH 6CA7 as an alternative to EL34's, but I prefer EL34's over all.

[awangotango]

did you make any changes to the circuit post swap? Everyone on this forum has a soldering iron by now right?

[rgorke]

I tried them a few years ago but can't remember how they sounded. Rgalpin also tried them and liked them. Do a search,,,probably in the 2008-2009 time frame.

[Carbia]

I only had to adjust the BIAS. It sounded "glassy" to me. Maybe better for EVH stuff, but not for me.

[awangotango]

this doesn't sound quite like any EL34 i've heard unless you really chop off the low end. It has that 6l6/6ca7 fendery quality. So Ithink you can get here just as close with a 6l6 as you could an el34 if you trialed and errored some tubes or value changes here and there.
http://forum.metroamp.com/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=43747

[dirtycooter]

This is what I am wondering. Could it be more similar to a 6C? Ed went this direction to the 6L's.
I pondered the tonal quality between a A/B clip that Don Stick made on souncloud of a 5153 3 channel and a Bogner 3 channel and put them head to head in a super clear A/B comparo. The evh ate the bog for lunch here. Way more solid and snappy with a nice detailed bite. Its fuller mids as well with more musicality as if it was a direct comparison of power tubes almost. Clean crunch and lead head to head on both amps. I preferred the evh 6L as well as the majority there.
Ed knows the 6C is done and dwindling fast so I think this is where he went that is closest for his ear.

[rgalpin]

I tried them a few years ago but can't remember how they sounded. Rgalpin also tried them and liked them. Do a search,,,probably in the 2008-2009 time frame.

I tried KT88s and 6V6 - but don't think I ever tried 6L6.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... dID=685045
All these toobs sound VERY similar in my clips - I think maybe I was just getting so much of the sound in the pre amp that there wasn't much being added at the power toobs. ?? Seems like there should be more of a difference between a 6V6 and a KT88.

[rgorke]

I tried them a few years ago but can't remember how they sounded. Rgalpin also tried them and liked them. Do a search,,,probably in the 2008-2009 time frame.

I tried KT88s and 6V6 - but don't think I ever tried 6L6.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... dID=685045
All these toobs sound VERY similar in my clips - I think maybe I was just getting so much of the sound in the pre amp that there wasn't much being added at the power toobs. ?? Seems like there should be more of a difference between a 6V6 and a KT88.

oops my bad, 6V6 it is then....

[dirtycooter]

LOVE those 6V6 clips!!!!

What the hell is wrong with that tone??? NOTHIN!
Is this a modded pre section amp or wide open/attenuator??

Lower power advantage substantially here-could crank and not worry about smokitizin greenbacks here.

The Kt88 sounded splatty and the 6ca7 sounded harsh and stiff as hell in that lineup and I am bein really serious-I liked the 6V's hands down . The 6V6 stayed sweet all over with more narrow compression and was more midrange focused which gives the tone some squish and sustain quality
I think this tube is better than 84's all day long-cause I almost really like 84's. The 6V's here don't sound like a pissy boxed in Vox type nasal tone I get from 84's.

I am getting ideas here

[awangotango]

I liked rgalpin's 6ca7 clips best by far. I never liked 6v6's in marshalls and the kt88 has to be dialed in and works best in a 50W with old iron and nos tubes. I do not believe most modern cheap kt88's are the same sound as the older ones which tend to be richer and less bright. The kt88 can be a hard sound if using modern with no circuit adjustment. The 6ca7 and el34's are more plug n play and modern can work just as well as nos. I still prefer EH el34's they grind so nice, but most modern el34's actually sound quite good in just about any marshall.

Also, I hear alot of difference in those clips at least.

[fivecoyote]

Dude Mick Jones of Foreigner used 6L6s in his Marshall. That awesome tone he gets (at times) is 6L6s! Would LOVE to play one.

http://www.woodytone.com/2011/03/15/hip ... ature-amp/

[rgalpin]

feel wise - the 6V6s had the firehose feel to them more than the others - but they were a little soft feeling - fun to lead with and noodle but disappointing when you wanted a riff to punch you in the gut.

[fivecoyote]

Rob that is an awesome description man. I like the 6Vs for lower vol amps better than EL84s -- and I have one of the best EL84 heads, a Bedrock. 6v6s sound great, but no gut punch...at least the amps I've played.