Suhr SL67 - My Next Amp!

[bognermatchless]

When he does the Brown Sound part of the video at the end......exactly the tone I have in my head when I think of VH.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3HBO2NvZ1M#t=61

[rgorke]

Yeah, I've been drooling over that for a week!

[Strat78]

"My next amp", you mean "next build" right.

[neikeel]

It's pretty much what a good lead spec 50w should sound like.

Bottom end is quite crisp with a good thunk too.

Interesting to use SL67 as a name as it is very much in the 69-71 tone ball park (although the vv and PPPIMV help get earlier browner sounds too.

[Tone Slinger]

Pretty nice sounding for sure. Thats a 'fairly' easy tone to get at (building your own).

One MAJOR thing to consider when going for Ed's earlier type sound (as well as other's using similar gear/sound//playing style, etc) is that *if* your not familiar with the non MV(1959/1987, etc) amps, you will be left thinking "This thing is just TOO clean and polite", when playing through it, even if it has a ppimv. It may record well and sound as it should (early EVH) but the feel under your fingers takes time to adjust to,cause you DONT have a alot of gain and the dynamics (or lack thereof) of the distortion is different. There is a mental interpretation type element to it.

I guess what I'm saying is IF you are used to multiple preamp gain MV type amps, BUT have always wanted and liked Ed's early BROWN SOUND, be prepared to keep an open mind, cause at first you might register "This just isnt it", when in fact, with time and adjustment, you will realize that it truly is what he was using, tone-wise.Alot of guys (like Nitro for instance) just cant, for whatever reason, comply that the non MV sound is what Ed was using. Just TOO used to preamp gain and obviously lack the ability in thier playing I'd assume. They 'hear' way more gain and compression than what is really there, concerning Ed's early tone.

[garbeaj]

Tell us how you really feel Andy

I like the Suhr amp for versatility and Pete demonstrated that very well.

[Strat78]

Yeah, I've been drooling over that for a week!

Okay, stop drooling and start building your 50w already!! Go with a regular rectifier if the tube rectifier spec is slowing you down. Does someone make a dual tap PT for a 50w? The voltage switch really made a difference with the sl67, more so than any 100w I've heard.
I think thet sl67 at the 20w setting is eye opening. The tone just splats out and gets all weedy (in a good way), my 73 50w does the same thing when dropped with a variac and then pushed up front. It's much more of a struggle to get that with 100w. Still, it's sounds like just the right amount of distortion blocking as well.

[rgorke]

Yeah, I've been drooling over that for a week!

Okay, stop drooling and start building your 50w already!! Go with a regular rectifier if the tube rectifier spec is slowing you down. Does someone make a dual tap PT for a 50w? The voltage switch really made a difference with the sl67, more so than any 100w I've heard.
I think thet sl67 at the 20w setting is eye opening. The tone just splats out and gets all weedy (in a good way), my 73 50w does the same thing when dropped with a variac and then pushed up front. It's much more of a struggle to get that with 100w. Still, it's sounds like just the right amount of distortion blocking as well.

I think this one does.

http://www.classictone.net/40-18054.html

If I could just get these kids from draining my GAS funds...I would be all over it!

[neikeel]

Yeah, I've been drooling over that for a week!

Okay, stop drooling and start building your 50w already!! Go with a regular rectifier if the tube rectifier spec is slowing you down. Does someone make a dual tap PT for a 50w? The voltage switch really made a difference with the sl67, :

Brian Wallace makes one

[vanhalen5150]

How much does this amp cost?

[Strat78]

I'm sure it is over 3k. Was it Brian's 164 PT, or a special order? Now I'm looking at Brian's jtm45 PT to try in a 100w. I've got too much iron in my life.

[vanhalen5150]

I don't see anything on the Marstran site that does that.

[vh junkie]

Why do you guys think its a dual "secondary"?
Most OT that have dual secondaries is to accommodate vintage vs. modern tubes.
I explained all this here in the SL68 thread... look at the pics of the SL68 and you know I'm right.
http://forum.metroamp.com/viewtopic.php ... &&start=47
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5og36yddsy63bsi/SL68.jpg

Why would the 67 be different? Just different secondary voltages.

[motrock]

Yeah, I've been drooling over that for a week!

Okay, stop drooling and start building your 50w already!! Go with a regular rectifier if the tube rectifier spec is slowing you down. Does someone make a dual tap PT for a 50w? The voltage switch really made a difference with the sl67, more so than any 100w I've heard.
I think thet sl67 at the 20w setting is eye opening. The tone just splats out and gets all weedy (in a good way), my 73 50w does the same thing when dropped with a variac and then pushed up front. It's much more of a struggle to get that with 100w. Still, it's sounds like just the right amount of distortion blocking as well.

I am coming to the conclusion that Eddie used 50watts on some of the early recordings. Think I understand why to a certain extent. I mean... I heard that it was recorded through one cab right? Or am I mistaken? How long is it going to take before a 100watt amp through a 100watt cab blows speakers. And as you all know, 100watts is actually conservative. Variaced down, a 100watt amp is probably hovering around 90-100watts. A 50watt amp is probably sitting at 40-50watts Variaced to 90Volts also. Someone said somewhere that a 50watt amp at 120Volts cranked is like 60-65watts? Maybe 70watts? Maybe I am way off base by that statement! LOL

Anyway, if you crank a 50watt Plexi(90Volts) through a 100watt cab.... you will save speakers. I know this because I have done the same thing with my 50watt Plexi clone since 2010.... with no attenuation. I just crank the damn thing and rattle the neighborhood! hah No one complains. I am lucky in that respect. The cool part is that the amp doesn't fart out the speakers. 100watt amps cranked will start blowing greenbacks/blackbacks after what.... 20 minutes! LOL

Its just a theory; but either Eddie used 50watters from time to time in the studio; or pulled 2 tubes. And honestly; how many of you have heard of Eddie blowing speakers? Its always tubes and transformers that I heard he blew. Never speakers

Just an interesting thought in relation to 50watt vs 100watt

[OnTheFritz]

Totally dug the Pete Thorne review of the amp, and would love to see a gut shot. Guessing if it's like the 68' 100 watter, it's got the (latest) Mallory 150 caps. Pretty damn easy to build a 50 watter like this, have one now on the bench sans the virtual variac mode. Fookin' screams!