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Re: ITO Tones rockstah posted

Post by Good Guest » Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:23 am

vanhalen5150 wrote:Looked at my 6 band last night. You have to desolder the slider to remove the current cap. A bit of surgery for sure.
Oh come on ....it aint brain surgery it's just 3 little solder pads :palm: and you get to clean up under there too :clap: yer slider will thank you for it. It's not like ALL the sliders have to be removed, just the one. :rock: But yeah if you want to do a proper job some desoldering braid would be the way to go on these boards less you lift pads and measle the thing all up. :thumbsup:

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Post by vanhalen5150 » Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:15 pm

Yeh I know....... :oops:

I have the cap for it as well.
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Post by MrBeasty » Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:49 pm

Huh ... what if he used the Boss GE-20 instead? ... it's way quieter and you can be way more precise with your frequency selection! :dlr:

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MrBeasty wrote:Huh ... what if he used the Boss GE-20 instead? ... it's way quieter and you can be way more precise with your frequency selection! :dlr:
You mean Ge-10 ..the ge 10 does a 1Khz boost which is still 200hz away from the one we are seeing in ITO, but closer for sure and quieter..next frequency for the ge-10 is 2khz ..

What is really interesting tho is the percision of the ge -10 is so precise they actually have a resistor in paralell with another to get the odd ball value requiered for the 1Khz gyrator ..I wonder what frequencies would be boosted if one was clipped..... :scratch:

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Post by rockstah » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:27 pm

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vanhalen5150 wrote:Looked at my 6 band last night. You have to desolder the slider to remove the current cap. A bit of surgery for sure.
Oh come on ....it aint brain surgery it's just 3 little solder pads :palm: and you get to clean up under there too :clap: yer slider will thank you for it. It's not like ALL the sliders have to be removed, just the one. :rock: But yeah if you want to do a proper job some desoldering braid would be the way to go on these boards less you lift pads and measle the thing all up. :thumbsup:
butchered the song but here is the mod. ;)
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Post by vanhalen5150 » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:31 pm

Sounds good.
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Re: ITO Tones rockstah posted

Post by rockstah » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:37 pm

vanhalen5150 wrote:Sounds good.
Strat78 has it nailed but the mod sounds good. ;)

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Post by efraser68 » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:41 pm

Sounds good Mark. Is this your *stock* or cascaded amp? What exactly has been done to the MXR 6 band?
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Post by rockstah » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:44 pm

efraser68 wrote:Sounds good Mark. Is this your *stock* or cascaded amp? What exactly has been done to the MXR 6 band?
thanks Eric! its my stock 78 metaface, superlead specs.
the mod: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so ... D=10034480 ( 6th post down)
Good Guest wrote:Normally I wouldn’t entertain this but Rgalpin and Rockstash have exceptional hearing when it comes to EVH tones and a very unique ,descriptive ways of relaying the info. It's like that old wood gundy commercial where everyone freezes when he talks. :mrgreen:

OK Some interesting things about the mxr 6 band ..before we start…The 800 Hz slider values equals a calculated value of 786.52 Hz which is allowable (within2%) for the targeted frequency of 800hz….and is why all mxr 6 bands from that era sound slightly different. The capacitors value can drift and even more so over time to 20% amounts and those small amounts can add up and cause drastic frequency changes.

What we are going to do is change 1 capacitor to a .047uf value and turn the 800hz slider into a 1.2 kHz slider. The calculated value from this change will be 1.25 kHz and is a respectable range.

You don’t need a vintage mxr to do this change any one will do…they are all carbon copy’s of the original anyways but parts are all different quality , hence mojo changes.

Besides you just want your mxr so it is boosting the right EVH frequency anyways..for the “ I’m the One” tune. The mod is so simple it would be very sad to see a company formed to soak people over such a simple change. So here it is. FREE
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Re: ITO Tones rockstah posted

Post by efraser68 » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:58 pm

duh :palm: Man I really want to hear your amp more in the mix. Is that an easy fix?
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Post by rockstah » Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:21 pm

efraser68 wrote:duh :palm: Man I really want to hear your amp more in the mix. Is that an easy fix?
i edited it. listen again. you can always turn the balance all the way to the left or turn the right side off. ;)

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Re: ITO Tones rockstah posted

Post by Good Guest » Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:16 am

Well I'll be ..if there isn't that EVH high end nailed and how sweet that tone....that riff at the 25 second mark talk about note seperation that's just sick.. :clap: :shred: Right of the bat you hear the sting... :champ:

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Re: ITO Tones rockstah posted

Post by rockstah » Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:19 am

yes indeed. for shits and giggles i put the mxr back to stock after playing it all day.... this mod is a must i have to say. ;)
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Re: ITO Tones rockstah posted

Post by Good Guest » Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:25 am

Here is the sting spectrum from Rockstashs clip ..same spot I've been snipping ...and there she blows the 1.2khz spike... :rock:
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Re: ITO Tones rockstah posted

Post by leadguy » Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:54 am

That's interesting.

On the Ed ATBL clip these spikes don't seem to be there but I need to look at it again.

Try to do some other VH1 songs if you can, and see what the spikes are on them.
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