1968 Plexi on fire!

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Re: 1968 Plexi on fire!

Post by EJSLPlexi » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:50 am

His distortion is so even with no jagged edges at all in that ISO clip! :rock:

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Re: 1968 Plexi on fire!

Post by Star*Guitar » Sun Nov 23, 2014 12:46 pm

EJSLPlexi wrote:His distortion is so even with no jagged edges at all in that ISO clip! :rock:
That's interesting. That sounds like compression to me. Probably at the board. Or maybe it's that Shaffer wireless lol.
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Re: 1968 Plexi on fire!

Post by Strat78 » Sun Nov 23, 2014 1:10 pm

I hear allot of speaker brake up going on too. The problem is if I add too much more push to the front end, you start getting that "hornets nest" kind of clipping especially with any kind of EQ boost (pushing into distortion blocking too much). Ed's tones are allot dryer than one would think, his picking strength and attack is how he makes it work.

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Re: 1968 Plexi on fire!

Post by JiMB » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:46 pm

Really great sounds here, Strat78!
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Post by Jeremy1283 » Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:35 pm

Strat78 wrote:I hear allot of speaker brake up going on too. The problem is if I add too much more push to the front end, you start getting that "hornets nest" kind of clipping especially with any kind of EQ boost (pushing into distortion blocking too much). Ed's tones are allot dryer than one would think, his picking strength and attack is how he makes it work.
I agree on this.. Not much pusibg the front. Nice work phil!

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Re: 1968 Plexi on fire!

Post by efraser68 » Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:06 pm

Strat78 wrote:I had the fat cap on for a couple of days and then took it off, think I might put it back. :scratch: Since I don't want to disturb the original solder joints on the Ohm switch, I'm adjusting the NFB and leaving the purple wire on the speaker jacks. I have a 120k in there today. Will go to 150k when I find one in the stashes. This clip is with a Mighty Mite #1400, it measures about 8.7K, oh and black backs speakers. Very cool sounding pickup, would love a little more push but I think pushing the speakers a little harder would do the trick, but I just can't do that in the house today. Anyway, this is how the amp sounds with a crappy Danelectro echo but no EQ.
https://soundcloud.com/iskra68/68nov22-2014
This first clip is pretty damn excellent. Is this with just the powerbrake?
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Re: 1968 Plexi on fire!

Post by mightymike » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:06 pm

Killer tone and playing Phil.

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Re: 1968 Plexi on fire!

Post by Strat78 » Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:29 pm

Thanks guys, this is a great amp and has been an education having it on the bench. Still a couple more things to try before I send it back to Star Guitar. Up the 8.2k dropping resistor to 10k, drop the PI filter to a dual 32, and I think a 50k mid pot just to see how this amp responds to that. I've been using an Alex attenuator for the last month, but just to take a little edge off to preserve the speakers. Probably lost more hearing in the last month than all my early years doing gigs. I really need to get better recordings, something is slipping with my setup.

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Re: 1968 Plexi on fire!

Post by rgorke » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:40 am

Strat78 wrote: Still a couple more things to try before I send it back to Star Guitar.

I'm sure it needs to be tested about 100 miles north of you. I am certain that the gravitational pull closer to DC is different and it should be confirmed here.... :scratch:
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Re: 1968 Plexi on fire!

Post by EJSLPlexi » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:02 pm

efraser68 wrote:
Strat78 wrote:I had the fat cap on for a couple of days and then took it off, think I might put it back. :scratch: Since I don't want to disturb the original solder joints on the Ohm switch, I'm adjusting the NFB and leaving the purple wire on the speaker jacks. I have a 120k in there today. Will go to 150k when I find one in the stashes. This clip is with a Mighty Mite #1400, it measures about 8.7K, oh and black backs speakers. Very cool sounding pickup, would love a little more push but I think pushing the speakers a little harder would do the trick, but I just can't do that in the house today. Anyway, this is how the amp sounds with a crappy Danelectro echo but no EQ.
https://soundcloud.com/iskra68/68nov22-2014
This first clip is pretty damn excellent. Is this with just the powerbrake?
I agree sounds just about dead on! has that nice even distortion too like the ISO clip.
I mean considering you were not in sunset studio i would say that clip pretty much seals the deal :champ:

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Re: 1968 Plexi on fire!

Post by fivecoyote » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:19 pm

Wow!!! I'd love any of those tones, great playing as usual S78, and jealous of what's coming StarGuit!

S78 re: losing hearing, seems like it goes faster now or maybe all those years of band practice in the basement are catching up....

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Re: 1968 Plexi on fire!

Post by Star*Guitar » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:30 pm

I'm liking all of them too. The first one does sounds killer. Phil is a great player. In the same way my old bud Mark A. was.
I sure do miss him. I hope he is listening. I wonder what he'd say? This one is for you Mark. :toast:
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Re: 1968 Plexi on fire!

Post by EJSLPlexi » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:22 pm

efraser68 wrote:
Strat78 wrote:I had the fat cap on for a couple of days and then took it off, think I might put it back. :scratch: Since I don't want to disturb the original solder joints on the Ohm switch, I'm adjusting the NFB and leaving the purple wire on the speaker jacks. I have a 120k in there today. Will go to 150k when I find one in the stashes. This clip is with a Mighty Mite #1400, it measures about 8.7K, oh and black backs speakers. Very cool sounding pickup, would love a little more push but I think pushing the speakers a little harder would do the trick, but I just can't do that in the house today.
How loud was the amp when you did this clip?
I agree with you if it were dimed the push would come out, getting the BB's to break up and the power tubes to breakup
would make this awesome clip even more incredible.
one thing it definitely has is the nice even distortion eddie got on VH I,no jagged edges. :thumbsup:

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Re: 1968 Plexi on fire!

Post by Strat78 » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:10 pm

The amp was very loud, and there was a nice amp/cab interaction that was great. I'm wondering if I'm loosing the right attack by increasing the NFB resistor at this point. I'm curious to see how NFB effects speaker brake up. If the tone is too smooth I don't think that will work the cones in a 70's sort of way.

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Re: 1968 Plexi on fire!

Post by EJSLPlexi » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:33 pm

Strat78 wrote:The amp was very loud, and there was a nice amp/cab interaction that was great. I'm wondering if I'm loosing the right attack by increasing the NFB resistor at this point. I'm curious to see how NFB effects speaker brake up. If the tone is too smooth I don't think that will work the cones in a 70's sort of way.
just dont lose the nice distortion wave it has. I have not heard anyone get that before
it is so close to the iso clip it is downright freaking me out :toast:

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