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Re: more VH1 studio analysis w/clips

Post by vanhalen5150 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:19 pm

Is the LA2 compressor worth building for a live rig?

I also have a slave setup going right now with a comp pedal in between. I split it into 2 signals. One dry and the other with the comp and Boss 10 EQ.
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Post by jape88 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:59 am

vanhalen5150 wrote:Is the LA2 compressor worth building for a live rig?
Isn't it the 1176 compressor that Ed used and installed into 5150? they have that extra boost facility according to what I've read. The always feature in the background of those early studio shots.

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Post by YMI5150? » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:05 am

heres' another one. i'm really diggin it. thoughts?

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i think the ep pre pedal was dimed on this clip. it has the right extra umph for ITO but a bit too much for JC, IMO anyway.

i like the mix, especially where Eric pauses in ITO and it rolls on the right side like the record.

i notice if i add compression with reverb it ghosts so right side is now clean of compression. just left side compression only.

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Post by JimiJames » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:40 am

good analysis :wink:
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Post by Strat78 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:31 am

That's probably the best ITO tone I've heard, perhaps you could back off on the ep3 a tad to get a little more organic attack/dynamics on the single notes and sweeten the solo tone. The pedal seems to be making it work and making it not work at the same time. The A string riff is perfect. I would try turning the pedal down and somehow by other means forcing a tad more blocking distortion in the amp for the smear effect, the opposite of putting a 250k resistor on the PI tube. Perhaps this is truly the set up,but the attenuator is causing the top end buzzines? Or perhaps it's the 59 twang on top? Great strides with these clips guys!
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Post by rgorke » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:06 am

Agreed, one of the closest. Need to confirm which guitar this is. The LP with the SD (super distortion or Seymour Duncan?). Just the dimed EP 3 and what post?

It has that crispness and some noise that adds to the vibe.
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Post by efraser68 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:36 am

Strat78 wrote:That's probably the best ITO tone I've heard, perhaps you could back off on the ep3 a tad to get a little more organic attack/dynamics on the single notes and sweeten the solo tone. The pedal seems to be making it work and making it not work at the same time. The A string riff is perfect. I would try turning the pedal down and somehow by other means forcing a tad more blocking distortion in the amp for the smear effect, the opposite of putting a 250k resistor on the PI tube. Perhaps this is truly the set up,but the attenuator is causing the top end buzzines? Or perhaps it's the 59 twang on top? Great strides with these clips guys!
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Great observations Phil and these were with me sitting within inches of amp and facing it, which is probably adding to the noise factor a bit. I'm a little embarrassed cuz we were just throwing back beers and listening to the amp as I was running through riffs not really paying much attention to accuracy, clams :hide: Who cares, it's awesome just to play Kevin's dutch treat. Agreed that the A string sounds and feels perfect for that part.
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Post by jnew » Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:45 am

Damn, that's a pretty hot and hairy tone with the EP-Pre dimed like that. Definitely one of the songs where something thump'd the front end a bit. Don't know what EP-Pre you're using but I don't think mine boost's a whole heck of a lot. There is some but not much. Mostly just the tonal effect is what I like about it. 8)
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Post by YMI5150? » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:36 pm

efraser68 wrote: I'm a little embarrassed cuz we were just throwing back beers and listening to the amp as I was running through riffs not really paying much attention to accuracy, clams :hide: Who cares, it's awesome just to play Kevin's dutch treat. Agreed that the A string sounds and feels perfect for that part.
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Post by vh junkie » Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:56 pm

Strat78 wrote:That's probably the best ITO tone I've heard, perhaps you could back off on the ep3 a tad to get a little more organic attack/dynamics on the single notes and sweeten the solo tone. The pedal seems to be making it work and making it not work at the same time. The A string riff is perfect. I would try turning the pedal down and somehow by other means forcing a tad more blocking distortion in the amp for the smear effect, the opposite of putting a 250k resistor on the PI tube. Perhaps this is truly the set up,but the attenuator is causing the top end buzzines? Or perhaps it's the 59 twang on top? Great strides with these clips guys!
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Post by stef » Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:42 pm

vh junkie wrote:
Strat78 wrote:the attenuator
a slaving rig!
:what: :?:

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Post by rgorke » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:33 am

stef wrote:
vh junkie wrote:
Strat78 wrote:the attenuator
a slaving rig!
:what: :?:
The attenuator is the load and line out ??? :shrug:
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Post by Strat78 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:36 pm

vh junkie wrote:
Strat78 wrote:That's probably the best ITO tone I've heard, perhaps you could back off on the ep3 a tad to get a little more organic attack/dynamics on the single notes and sweeten the solo tone. The pedal seems to be making it work and making it not work at the same time. The A string riff is perfect. I would try turning the pedal down and somehow by other means forcing a tad more blocking distortion in the amp for the smear effect, the opposite of putting a 250k resistor on the PI tube. Perhaps this is truly the set up,but the attenuator is causing the top end buzzines? Or perhaps it's the 59 twang on top? Great strides with these clips guys!
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Never thought I would see the day that strat78 would sing the praises of a slaving rig! :lol:
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Post by YMI5150? » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:00 pm

Praise Jesus! He's seen the light :clap:

either that or the drugs are damn good.

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Post by rgorke » Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:20 pm

Yeah it would be great to hear a couple Strat78 clips with the same amp slaved and then just into a cabinet with or without attenution.
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