Goodbye Micheal Anthony!

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Post by 1Way » Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:44 am

JD, you get to a fine point, and I agree. But folks have been suggesting that some stars have out of control ego problems, not simply the desire to do fresh stuff. It's like they can't see past their own self concerns (selfish?) and consider the millions of people they turned on with the help and admiration of the rest of the band, let alone consider the rest of the band.

It's a real let down to hear that a get together can't be done, or a band keeps loosing valuable band members because of ,,, egotism. If Eddie is really that way, then it taints the persona of one of the best rock guitarists. If the fans of early EVH don't speak out, then he can comfort himself with the assumption that the loose of the likes of DLR and now Micheal Anthony, are worth while casualties. That's a pile of crap and I hope Eddie is not that selfish.

I for one am quite glad to hear the suggestion that DLR should agree to a reunion tour only if MA comes along. (1)Friendship and (2)loyalty and (3)a solid connection with the fans that supported their ultimate success, needs to stop taking a back seat. If you can't do that much, it's sorta like Eddie is snubbing the fans that supported "the band", biting the hand that feeds him.

I'm not saying every classic rock band has to do reunion tours, although it is a great idea(!!!), I'm saying that arbitrary self centered egotism is ugly, and even detestable if it is replacing friendship and loyalty to the band and it's fans.
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Post by Andy » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:32 am

Roth and Anthony should hook up with a guitarist capable of the chops... a few from here come to mind... and a drummer and go on tour! I think they could do better than the "real VH".

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Post by Tone Slinger » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:50 am

No way ! Hell you already have too many great "Copy" bands as is. Take the singer in "The Atomic Punks" and Al Estrada in "Eruption", and put them togather and that is done. People want the real deal in a concentrated effort to "Play" well. I think back to all my previous bands, some lasted a while, and although we didnt tour the world and make millions, we were tight. I have completly lost touch with damn near everyone of them. I do not think Van Halen, collectivly are any different. At this point it is all buissiness. Maybe they all do share certain memories and have soft spots in thier hearts for each other. They were not ever "True" friends to one another I guess.

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Post by rgalpin » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:47 am

when i saw dave a few years ago his guitarist was vintage ed - he was ed circa 1979 - it was ferocious man - all the sounds were right there - it had that angular early ed vibe - it was awesome. i would go see that before i went to see ed and wolfie and their peavey stacks.

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Post by JD » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:06 am

1Way wrote:JD, you get to a fine point, and I agree. But folks have been suggesting that some stars have out of control ego problems, not simply the desire to do fresh stuff. It's like they can't see past their own self concerns (selfish?) and consider the millions of people they turned on with the help and admiration of the rest of the band, let alone consider the rest of the band.

It's a real let down to hear that a get together can't be done, or a band keeps loosing valuable band members because of ,,, egotism. If Eddie is really that way, then it taints the persona of one of the best rock guitarists. If the fans of early EVH don't speak out, then he can comfort himself with the assumption that the loose of the likes of DLR and now Anthony, are worth while casualties. That's a pile of crap and I hope Eddie is not that selfish.

I for one am quite glad to hear the suggestion that DLR should agree to a reunion tour only if Anthony comes along. (1)Friendship and (2)loyalty and (3)a solid connection with the fans that supported their ultimate success, needs to stop taking a back seat. If you can't do that much, it's sorta like Eddie is snubbing the fans that supported "the band", biting the hand that feeds him.

I'm not saying every classic rock band has to do reunion tours, although it is a great idea(!!!), I'm saying that arbitrary self centered egotism is ugly, and even detestable if it is replacing friendship and loyalty to the band and it's fans.
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Point taken, and as a fan I would love to see the original lineup, same as Guns 'n Roses or any great band. But the fact is all these years later they will never recreate the magic they had in their hayday, and at the end of the day everyone knows it's just about one last chance to cash in on the past.

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Post by 1Way » Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:37 am

Rock band fan loyalty should be a two way street.
JD wrote: Point taken, and as a fan I would love to see the original lineup, same as Guns 'n Roses or any great band. But the fact is all these years later they will never recreate the magic they had in their hayday, and at the end of the day everyone knows it's just about one last chance to cash in on the past.
?!? I'm sure some superstars are in it for the money only, but people still go see the Rolling Stones and the Beach Boys for crying out loud and others on the "senior tour". Despite being aged and sometimes being half the band they used to be, the fans still go see em and some pay outrageous premium ticket prices simply because of what rock and roll means to them!!! Because of how deeply these bands touched them from years gone by.

I'd much rather go see reunion Cream or Keith Richards or Angus Young than what the latest generation of so called rock music has produced these days. In the end, if stars loose sight of the millions of fans around the world as being at the heart of the ultimate goal, then I agree with you 100%. I'd rather see a run away ego find it's just reward via a lack of interest/musical success. People are touched by true glory, they are moved by performances that go beyond sound.

Even tho I'm more of an early Cream/Led Zepp/ZZ Top/KISS Ace Frehley/ACDC/Def Leppard/Robert Johnson :shock:/Scorpions kind a guy (:lol: interesting order hu?), if I get the chance, I want to go see the New Cars just to support Elliot Easton, one of the more seriously tasteful guitarists around. Besides, he posted over at everythingsg.com forum and very insightfully helped me see the light about a bridge issue when using a Bigsby. :wink: Ya gotta chuck that old standby TOM bridge with it's friction heavy blade saddles. :roll: He truely made a lasting mark that should be remembered and rewarded.

I'm all for new players stepping up and carrying on the torch the way it used to be done. I for one would love to bring back good old rock and roll the way it used to be played, and the blues too. It's like people these days don't even care about the energy and awesome music that was involved in the 60's and 70's when blues and rock was growing at a phenomenal rate.

Rock band fan loyalty should be a two way street.

cary chilton

Post by cary chilton » Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:53 am

Well, I think and Alex learned a little from the Hagar tour FLOP.
It pissed a lot of people off. I would hope that the bros and their lawyers and management will make sure a second, could be a final, attempt to tour is done right. Wolfie or an known or best, Anthony... somethings gotta give.

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