EVH clip with a 71 Marshall Superlead

[502_6speed]

Yeah, this is starting to sound like the Robin L topic!

[wiseblood]

wow, what a clip MM. i am very impressed, well done.

[rgalpin]

hey i got a little dramatic there with my last post - sorry 'bout that.

i went back and read the thread again to get some perspective - and MM did tell a lot about the details of what he used - just not the details that i am the most interested in.

-rob

[dirtycooter]

Wasn't trying to bust any balls either-just stating-we hear the clips then we are all at the mercy of the poster if he wants to spill it all in depth.
I think eventually though everyone will get it down and this stuff will be common knowledge at some point. So I always wonder why all the beatin around the bush sometimes is all-cause more and more people are getting it than ever before and better and better all the time.
Hoarding all the info to make a lifes income though? not too sure about that though.

[rockstah]

hey i got a little dramatic there with my last post - sorry 'bout that.

i went back and read the thread again to get some perspective - and MM did tell a lot about the details of what he used - just not the details that i am the most interested in.

-rob

heh

[Good Guest]

Didn't Ralle already say it was the same amp he's been playng with for the last 6 years...there's a whole sticky on his specs...and we know he's been playing with cascades..he's dropped lots of hints in his threads with great clips. Whats he supposed to do ..put it on a platter with all the trimmings for our consumption.

I think the thing about this clip is the slaving, load , line out, unique effects loop/power amp, ep3 , buffer and most importantly MM's chops.

Rockstash has a cool power amp interface too..seems to be the key once you get the amp specs right.

Ralle has a cool power amp interface also that he's more than spilled the beans on that and it sounds great too.

It's like everybody (well maybe not everybody) has found the big secret..SLAVING...SLAVING and more SLAVING

[vh junkie]

+1

But I would add, and I think plexified already did, the importance of getting the right taste of reverb in place. Its like the icing on the cake. Seems like MMs clip has it.

MM: Just keep it comin' brotha!

[leadguy]

No one has to be a genius to look at the results of the Spectrum Analysis.

The sinasl1 spectrum is nearly the same at the right places as Ed's original and Marshall Maniacs spectrum is close but it's not as close as the sinasl1 spectrum.
This is the case below 5khz and the JBL EQing as well.

I thought that it was possible that Ed had a cascade of some sort but I've changed my mind. The white knob at the back of Ed's amp could be anything and could have been added after VH1 as the only photos of it are the VHII session photos.

In fact the more I look at that white knob the more it looks like a push activated on/off switch and not a pot and it could be a switch to turn off 2 of the power tubes for less volume.

Listening to Marshall Maniacs's clip, the cascade seems to be too much compared to Ed's original and so the spectrum differs to Ed's.

The sinasl1 clip with Dave Friedmans altered stock values amp and the variac gives a spectrum that is closer to Ed's.

If the raw sinasl1 clip was done with Celestions and JBL's and re-amped in the reverb room at Sunset Sound then I would say it's spectrum would be close to being 98% (or very high) similar to Ed's.

The secret is Ed's stock amp and variac and bias and the studio and Ed's playing.
The variac and bias in combination with Ed's main amp play a huge role in that tone.

I'm not putting down Marshall Maniacs clip, I think it sounds great but slaving is not Ed's secret.
Reducing the Sunset Sound studio down to a power tube amp is not it.

http://chandrakantha.com/articles/spect ... ctrum.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"However, day-to-day sounds and musical sounds consist of a mixture of different frequencies. It is the nature of this mix which helps to determine timbre (or tone). Therefore, by looking closely at these component frequencies we get insight into the timbre of any sound. This is spectrum analysis."

[Ralle]

Can someone email me about posting a layout for MM's head? I can't post a bmp file...
BTW... The white knob was in there when Ed bought the amp...

[leadguy]

BTW... The white knob was in there when Ed bought the amp

How do we know this?

As I said above, it doesn't look like a pot but looks more like a push switch to maybe cut out 2 tubes.

http://books.google.com/books?id=bmeE_H ... ll&f=false" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If it is, then it explains a few things about the volume and small clubs.

Cutting 2 tubes and using the variac for volume control.

[Krinkle]

Hey MM, can you give us some details on the guitar?

Body wood type (ash or alder?)
Neck wood type (maple on maple, one piece maple?)
trem type (Floyd or Fender)

Thanks,

Darrin

[jape88]

Hey MM, can you give us some details on the guitar?

Body wood type (ash or alder?)
Neck wood type (maple on maple, one piece maple?)
trem type (Floyd or Fender)

Thanks,

Darrin

Framus Diablo Custom

# Bolt-on
# US Swamp Ash body
# AAA Flamed Maple top (bookmatched)
# Ovangkol neck
# Tigerstripe Ebony fingerboard
# Traditional Custom inlays (mother-of-pearl)
# Scale length: 25,5" (648 mm)
# 22 jumbo frets
# Original Seymour Duncan pickups: SHR-1 (neck), SSL-1 (RW/RP - middle), STB-4 JB trembucker (bridge)
# Framus 5-way switch
# 1 x Push/pull volume control for humbucker splitting
# 1 x tone control
# Framus vibrato (by Wilkinson)
# Framus low friction nut
# Weight**: 3,5 kg
# Framus Nickel Plated Steel strings (.009" - .046")

[bmf5150]

No one has to be a genius to look at the results of the Spectrum Analysis.

The sinasl1 spectrum is nearly the same at the right places as Ed's original and Marshall Maniacs spectrum is close but it's not as close as the sinasl1 spectrum.
This is the case below 5khz and the JBL EQing as well.

I thought that it was possible that Ed had a cascade of some sort but I've changed my mind. The white knob at the back of Ed's amp could be anything and could have been added after VH1 as the only photos of it are the VHII session photos.

In fact the more I look at that white knob the more it looks like a push activated on/off switch and not a pot and it could be a switch to turn off 2 of the power tubes for less volume.

Listening to Marshall Maniacs's clip, the cascade seems to be too much compared to Ed's original and so the spectrum differs to Ed's.

The sinasl1 clip with Dave Friedmans altered stock values amp and the variac gives a spectrum that is closer to Ed's.

If the raw sinasl1 clip was done with Celestions and JBL's and re-amped in the reverb room at Sunset Sound then I would say it's spectrum would be close to being 98% (or very high) similar to Ed's.

The secret is Ed's stock amp and variac and bias and the studio and Ed's playing.
The variac and bias in combination with Ed's main amp play a huge role in that tone.

I'm not putting down Marshall Maniacs clip, I think it sounds great but slaving is not Ed's secret.
Reducing the Sunset Sound studio down to a power tube amp is not it.

http://chandrakantha.com/articles/spect ... ctrum.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"However, day-to-day sounds and musical sounds consist of a mixture of different frequencies. It is the nature of this mix which helps to determine timbre (or tone). Therefore, by looking closely at these component frequencies we get insight into the timbre of any sound. This is spectrum analysis."

where do you get a program for spectrum analysis??i want to check out my clip..
http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7782093" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Krinkle]

Can someone email me about posting a layout for MM's head? I can't post a bmp file...
BTW... The white knob was in there when Ed bought the amp...

Did anybody contact Ralle to help get the layout up on the site? Ralle, PM me if nobody has contacted you yet, and I'll get the file up one way or another.
Darrin

[T.J.Fuller]

MM,

getting back to your signal chain regarding the echoplex.

it is a fact some of these units sound far better than others.

just curious ....What is the serial number on your echoplex ??