EVH tone

Tone Slinger · Post by **Tone Slinger** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:42 pm

Yeah your right, all the mystic and magic associated with when they first came out . From all the bootleg's I've heard i'm wonderin "how the fuck did he keep that shit in tune". His sound and all the associations of it were amazing. I think "Diver Down" is a good example of how the floyd sounds to say the first or second album.

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:40 am

Tone Slinger wrote:Yeah your right, all the mystic and magic associated with when they first came out . From all the bootleg's I've heard i'm wonderin "how the fuck did he keep that shit in tune". His sound and all the associations of it were amazing. I think "Diver Down" is a good example of how the floyd sounds to say the first or second album.

a stock fender trem, set up correctly, along with the understanding of the tension involved and what brings it out of tune ,will stay in tune pretty good - i think Ed understood these concepts early on..

in other words, IMHO, some of the classic evh over bends and even the dive bombs, i think came about to get the stock trem back in tune after he knew it was going to be out from what he previously did! if that makes sense.
listen to them old boots u can hear when he goes out of tune sometimes he will bend up a note or sometimes hell grab the bar and voila its back in tune!
Mark

MacGaden · Post by **MacGaden** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:50 am

I use a stock Fender Trem on my main Strat, a

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:52 am

[quote="MacGaden"]I use a stock Fender Trem on my main Strat, a

Star*Guitar · Post by **Star*Guitar** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:18 am

rockstah wrote:
Tone Slinger wrote:Although ed didnt record with one until the Fair Warning album, I think that the Floyd Rose sound is very synonymous with the brown sound.
im not sure i agree - the brown tone i like to hear is with a stock fender tremolo.

With all due respect..I doubt anyone can hear a difference in tone between those two...other then the Floyd is more flex-able and expressive. Even the difference with a Floyd the rest on the body is very subjective.

What I think you are hearing is other factors..EQ...Effects...possible body wood..

One thing for sure...that Destroyer on "You Really Got me" is really crunchy.

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:20 am

Star*Guitar wrote:
rockstah wrote:
Tone Slinger wrote:Although ed didnt record with one until the Fair Warning album, I think that the Floyd Rose sound is very synonymous with the brown sound.
im not sure i agree - the brown tone i like to hear is with a stock fender tremolo.
With all due respect..I doubt anyone can hear a difference in tone...other then the Floyd is more flex-able and expressive.

than u havent listened enough my friend. come to think of it even remember in early interviews when ed was first using the original Floyd Rose he complained of it being bright and thin. i hear the stock trem as being fatter.

Star*Guitar · Post by **Star*Guitar** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:24 am

Man you responded fast...I was editing my post and you were already done responding..LOL..

rgalpin · Post by **rgalpin** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:32 am

rockstah wrote: in other words, IMHO, some of the classic evh over bends and even the dive bombs, i think came about to get the stock trem back in tune after he knew it was going to be out from what he previously did! if that makes sense.

without a doubt! once you start using the bar, it changes the way you think while yer playing because you are constantly listening to see if your last move affected tuning - a big dive might leave things sharp - a big over bend may leave things flat - you might even just use the bar a little because you haven't for a few bars and you know it's probabably getting a little flat - the bar is an instrument IN an instrument.

when the floyd first came out, i couldn't afford one - so i bought just the locking nut - and found screws to fit in the saddle adjustment holes and used bolts and washers to lock the strings down on the trem bridge - on my poor little HONDO II Starbody -

- hee hee - I still have it in storage.

rockstah · Post by **rockstah** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:45 pm

Star*Guitar wrote:Man you responded fast...I was editing my post and you were already done responding..LOL..

Tone Slinger · Post by **Tone Slinger** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:31 am

Oh yeah, definate sound difference ! The bridge will affect the sound more than the body or neck wood. The wood does affect sound, but to a lesser degree than the bridge. I think the pick (material moreso than guage) also affects tone. Ed used medium guaged celluloid (Fender medium) picks early on.

Flames1950 · Post by **Flames1950** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:50 am

I thought I remembered one interview where Eddie said he had to file out the nut slots oversize so that the strings didn't catch in the nut with a stock Fender style trem........

BrownSound1 · Post by **BrownSound1** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:09 pm

The tuning machines....Ed did some things there too. For instance when he was tensioning up his 6th string, he would wind the string on the tuning maching so the wrap would go towards the top instead of the bottom. This was done so that the string wouldn't be pulling down and bind up in the nut, but rather allow the string to move straight through the nut slot. The down side is that if you hit the strings too hard it would pop out of the slot, so he had to adapt his playing so that when he would play an open E chord he would lay his index finger across the nut, and play the chord like a barre chord.