Little Guitars VH

[dirtycooter]

Ok, i dug out the spring 94 issue of guitar shop and it just says chorus unit and thats it. But I know I seen it somewhere it stated mxr. Back into the archives I go. My bad.
But it does have interview about ed stated "we worked alot on the speaker magnet and voice coils, thry have that english tone" referring to the pv5150 speaks.
yeah, reading any magazine article about ed's gear back then makes me laugh my fricken ass off now mostly. So much speculation and horse crap we have totally disproven here so many times

[garbeaj]

... it's definitely a "Roland" Chorus, but not a CE-1... -> Roland Chorus Echo. Same warbly tape echo unit Ed used on the intro to Hear About It Later during the -> Fair Warning Tour <- ... & before you "kids" here throw a fit - that's NOT THE MXR FLANGER he recorded the H.A.I.L. intro w/ ...

I'm curious what evidence you used to form your opinion that Ed used this Roland Chorus Echo for the live intro to "Hear About It Later"...He obviously used the MXR Flanger on the Fair Warning recording, but I do think it is at least possible that he used the Harmonizer for the live version intros.

He did mention that he used a "Roland echo box" hooked into his rig for the 1984 tour so he could do the quiet parts of "Hot For Teacher" on his Kramers in place of the Flying V he used on the recording. He may be referring to the Roland DC-30 present in his rack for the 1984 tour. I haven't seen a direct reference to what he used specifically for the recording of "Little Guitars". If you have such a reference, please post it...It would be a real find.

[classalpha]

I'm curious what evidence you used to form your opinion that Ed used this Roland Chorus Echo for the live intro to "Hear About It Later"...

... because the live version of HAIL has a chorus/"vibrato" effect rather than a "flanger" effect... & Ed didn't need another pedal if he had a rack-mounted tape echo w/ a chorus effect already built in it...

He obviously used the MXR Flanger on the Fair Warning recording, but I do think it is at least possible that he used the Harmonizer for the live version intros.

... Ed used the Eventide H949 for a pitch-shifting effect - listen to the last note in his solo on the Fair Warning Tour where it jumps up an octave as he bends the note. BTW I don't think the H949 can even get a decent vibrato effect if @ all - it's early, low bit-rate digital & particularly glitchy anyway. The live version of HAIL & the recorded & live versions of Little Guitars have a warm & smooth vibrato effect... very analog-sounding. Both the Roland CE-301 & CE-501 are analog signal processors...

[echoplexi1974]

Just listened to the 1982 Guitar Player Jas Obrecht Diverdown interview with Eddie that I luckily burned to a cd before they took it off youtube.

This is part of the interview:

Jas: When you did the electric part for Little Guitars, what effect did you use in the beginning, it really sorta just.....
Eddie:......I'm using a chorus, you know a roland chorus echo job, set on the chorus thing for the beginning....

But that effect on Hear About It Later, I could never figure out what that was... sounds like the MXR flanger to me. Maybe recorded directly into the board? It sounds so clean. Dirty Water Dog off of VH3 has the same effect as HAIL....

[garbeaj]

But that effect on Hear About It Later, I could never figure out what that was... sounds like the MXR flanger to me. Maybe recorded directly into the board? It sounds so clean. Dirty Water Dog off of VH3 has the same effect as HAIL....

It may have been direct...but the effect on the intro and parts of the rest of "Hear About It Later" from the Fair Warning album is definitely his standard MXR Flanger with his standard settings. The thing that makes the intro sound totally different is that he used a standard three single coil Strat with the "Mark Knopfler" out-of-phase pickup setting between the bridge and middle pickups. Here is a version I recorded of the intro using my strat with this Mark Knopfler setting on the clean channel of my Marshall 2 x 12 1402 circuit JCM 800 combo amp and my vintage MXR Flanger with Ed's normal settings:



But the discussion in the posts above were all about what he used on the LIVE intro of "Hear About It Later" from the 1981 Oakland live promotional set of clips. He obviously did not use the MXR Flanger on that live version, but we were all wondering what effect he was using live...

[echoplexi1974]

Gotcha. Nice sounding clip! That's sounds really close

All your knobs were set @ 12:00?

[garbeaj]

Gotcha. Nice sounding clip! That's sounds really close

All your knobs were set @ 12:00?

Yes...I've used those settings all along for Ed stuff. He says now that on his regular setting he used 11:30 on all the knobs except the "Regeneration" knob all the way on the right was turned full up. That's the setting I'm going with now. These apply to vintage MXR Flangers only and not any of the reissues, but using Ed's setting on the reissues will get you in the ballpark.

[Ed_Number1]

... it's definitely a "Roland" Chorus, but not a CE-1... -> Roland Chorus Echo. Same warbly tape echo unit Ed used on the intro to Hear About It Later during the -> Fair Warning Tour <- ... & before you "kids" here throw a fit - that's NOT THE MXR FLANGER he recorded the H.A.I.L. intro w/ ...

Makes sense, no pedal.