Ed's stripped Tolex 4x12 Cabinets for VH1 Let's discuss!

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Re: Ed's stripped Tolex 4x12 Cabinets for VH1 Let's discuss!

Post by Mr. Beasty » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:10 pm

All I see is light black cloth [like current standard Marshall cabs] and no tolex ... perhaps the cloth is on the inside?

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Re: Ed's stripped Tolex 4x12 Cabinets for VH1 Let's discuss!

Post by St August » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:29 pm

if you look at the pic I have posted. you can clearly see that the cabs are not just merely new with glue on them nor are they simply a cab with the tolex ripped off.
the tolex has been off for some time. they have been handled thousands of times in and out of trucks , used as table and ashtray and possibly more who knows..
do they look like they just ripped off the tolex 5 minutes ago .. No. everything is aged and worn and to make them look like that takes alot more work than simply putting on new tolex to a new cab. But I see your point. You could do this with your own cabs if you wished too. So the bottom line is . it will be for some and not for others. and its only 125.00 BTW..

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Re: Ed's stripped Tolex 4x12 Cabinets for VH1 Let's discuss!

Post by bmf5150 » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:31 pm

so a new aged cab for $125.00?thats a cheap 4-12 cabinet.
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Re: Ed's stripped Tolex 4x12 Cabinets for VH1 Let's discuss!

Post by St August » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:34 pm

bmf5150 wrote:so a new aged cab for $125.00?thats a cheap 4-12 cabinet.

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Post by JWR » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:11 pm

i thought those cabs belonged to the guy from WASP. Blackie Lawless. I

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Re: Ed's stripped Tolex 4x12 Cabinets for VH1 Let's discuss!

Post by harddriver » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:40 pm

Just as there is alot of hours put into relicing a strat for Franky I see quite alot of amount of time and effort would have to go into relicing a speaker cabinet to same effect.

People pay extra to have a guitar look 25 years old look at Fender's custom shop building relic'd guitars and Franky replicas. An EVH fan/collector may want a cabinet to look as Edward used then in 1978 the option is there if that's your thing. If not, order it with tolex no big thing.

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Re: Ed's stripped Tolex 4x12 Cabinets for VH1 Let's discuss!

Post by TheDarkness » Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:10 am

St August wrote:
bmf5150 wrote:so a new aged cab for $125.00?thats a cheap 4-12 cabinet.

"Shakes head" :roll: :P
Really only 125 dollars? I'll email you soon Jerry.
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Re: Ed's stripped Tolex 4x12 Cabinets for VH1 Let's discuss!

Post by St August » Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:09 am

"Shakes head" :roll: :P[/quote]

Really only 125 dollars? I'll email you soon Jerry.[/quote]

Extra 125.00

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Post by TheDarkness » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:55 am

Haha thats what I thought the first time I saw it on your site. Its still a cool idea.
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Re: Ed's stripped Tolex 4x12 Cabinets for VH1 Let's discuss!

Post by Ruben » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:03 pm

I've tried a lot of Greenbacks (pre rola's) but surpringly liked the blackbacks the best...
Looking at the VH2 pictures, (checkerboard cloth) wouldn't there be blackbacks in it?

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Re: Ed's stripped Tolex 4x12 Cabinets for VH1 Let's discuss!

Post by bmf5150 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:29 pm

St August wrote:"Shakes head" :roll: :P
Really only 125 dollars? I'll email you soon Jerry.[/quote]

Extra 125.00[/quote]
come on it doesnt say extra $125.00 on your site!!!!i was getting ready to buy a cab....lol
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Re: Ed's stripped Tolex 4x12 Cabinets for VH1 Let's discuss!

Post by St August » Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:58 pm

bmf5150 wrote:
St August wrote:"Shakes head" :roll: :P
Really only 125 dollars? I'll email you soon Jerry.
Extra 125.00[/quote]
come on it doesnt say extra $125.00 on your site!!!!i was getting ready to buy a cab....lol[/quote]
hence the word option :wink:

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Re: Ed's stripped Tolex 4x12 Cabinets for VH1 Let's discuss!

Post by vanhalen5150 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:54 am

The only thing I ever did to the outside of a cab, that actually made a difference cost about $0.36. Put a screw with a washer straight into the back to pull it tight to the wooden pole piece that is only attached to the front with a few screws. Took a bit of "boominess" out and gave a tighter compressive sound.
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Re: Ed's stripped Tolex 4x12 Cabinets for VH1 Let's discuss!

Post by dirtycooter » Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:34 pm

Things I look for in an EVH cab?

5/8" 11 ply plywood walls, center internal sound post [some cabs don't have this],
solid metal airtight handles, particle board back, airtight caster sockets that are air tight even with the casters removed, removeable speaker baffle, basketweave type cloth.
Mojave had these casters right [they used really nice airtight sockets!] and the handles-but they have "no center sound post" which results in woofiness in the low end and and real 3/4" plywood sides that don't resonate and breath/flex as well as the thinner 5/8" stuff does. Mojave is a great cab spec wise and even has a real ply back but I redid my PV5150 cabs and they actually souund way better now than the Mojave ever did-not to mention I really don't like h30's for VH tone although some guys have gotten good VH tone with them I feel the best tones are the 25watter clips here.

My personal preference-small real basketweave and any type of 25watt greenback style speaker is OK but we all have our own favorites and know what is rated best. You're close as long as you have a 75hz 25watter in there in my opinion and the rest is more or less splitting hairs.

I made special metal plates for the caster cups, jack hole plates, and handle holes out of 3/8" steel painted wrinkle black in a machine shop for my 5150 cabs, threw out the rattle ass casters they have and replaced them with bolted-in rubber feet in place of the casters same holes, re-covered the grills with small cane weave from Mojo-pain in the ass here!-and now I have two identical basket weave airtight 5150 cabs with no obscene rattling noises.
One has greenbacks and the other still has sheffield's still and for a FX side reasons it works great!
The 5150 logo's were moved from the bottom right corners and placed in the center and I just tossed the Peavey logos.

Other than the hardware alone being different they are identical to any 80's-to present Marshall 1960 cab in build, size, etc. Actually better since the rounded edge of the Marshall's where they router in the radius on the edges removes more wood and structure from the finger joints than the non-radiused PV5150 does-there is more meat in the corners on the 5150 technically.
They have the same dimensions, 5/8" OR 15mm plywood, only the back panels are particle board, and have a nice beefy 3/4" or 1" thick plywood speaker mounting baffle.
In the end-its a Marshall cab copy period with crappy cheap hardware-in which I replaced the best way possible.
Plus I scarfed these "thought to be junk PV5150 cabs" dirt fricken cheap in "mint condition"! :mrgreen:
Its just a box built a certain way basically.
I do wonder about the back panel at times but feel comfortable with the old thread here saying particle board backs gave a tighter sound than ply.

Ed's new EVH cabs are built EXACTLY how they should've been back in the PV days and actually come with everything I look for plus have pretty fairly decent speakers from what everyone has said here. The big EVH logo is a little goofy though.
They have the good metal hardware, right wall thickness, rubber feet, etc etc.
The only thing I seen maybe is if the casters are removed they might be the kind that leak air adn in turn leaving the cab not completely air-tight.
I feel they are priced about right since when you look at any Marshall greenback cab with plastic hardware those are $999.00 and for $100 more you can get all metal hardware to boot as well as rubber feet all ready to go.
Don't know about the back panels though and if they are ply or particle?

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Re: Ed's stripped Tolex 4x12 Cabinets for VH1 Let's discuss!

Post by yngwie308 » Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:51 am

When is the replica effects bomb coming out through EVH products..that's the one I'm waiting for.. :)
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