blue box mxr 6 band eq vs. newer mxr 6 band

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Re: blue box mxr 6 band eq vs. newer mxr 6 band

Post by Haze13 » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:12 am

The fact that people use vintage stuff "AS IT IS" just makes me crazy! Of course it's NOISY! When some one buys an old Amp the first thing he does is replacing an old filter caps, because it can blow up and OT tranny... As above, So below. These old stomp boxes use electronics as well, and always worst than you can buy right now with a simple click of a keyboard. Electrolytics are very limited in time, and 30 or 40 years is just to much for this component.
Replace all the resistors in the voltage line to a Metal Films, all of the resistors in Vbias (4.5V) to the same Metal Films, replace all of the Electrolytic caps to a new ones. 470uf 25v for the Voltage line if you can fit them in. If possible - 1uf caps polyester type. And Enjoy!!!

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Re: blue box mxr 6 band eq vs. newer mxr 6 band

Post by dirtycooter » Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:25 pm

Wow. Just read through this 9 pages. Cocks a swingin like light sabers on this one vwoom vwoom kishzzzzzssss :lol:

Anybody miss Nitro??





:lol:

Just kidding. Not really. Everyone give a one finger salute ready 1 2 3 GO!

But are these black new ones on par or just as noisey? I liked my 10band mxr thats currently on the block but sold it due to noise issues. But it did some stuff I liked even though the dreaded noise! I liked it had clip leds on each slider.
Come to think of it , it sounded alot like the SL68 demo vid with the pimp sparkle silver strat ....
Same hiss.
Ed used an e.q.
No doubt.
And those pics were staged! The recent interview at sunset proves this. The vocals were done in a seperate room

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Re: blue box mxr 6 band eq vs. newer mxr 6 band

Post by rgorke » Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:33 pm

dirtycooter wrote:Wow. Just read through this 9 pages. Cocks a swingin like light sabers on this one vwoom vwoom kishzzzzzssss :lol:

Anybody miss Nitro??





:lol:

Just kidding. Not really. Everyone give a one finger salute ready 1 2 3 GO!

But are these black new ones on par or just as noisey? I liked my 10band mxr thats currently on the block but sold it due to noise issues. But it did some stuff I liked even though the dreaded noise! I liked it had clip leds on each slider.
Come to think of it , it sounded alot like the SL68 demo vid with the pimp sparkle silver strat ....
Same hiss.
Ed used an e.q.
No doubt.
And those pics were staged! The recent interview at sunset proves this. The vocals were done in a seperate room
Geez, I really loath that guy...and I Know he is reading this. :whistle:

So, your MXR 10 band was a blue version or the black version? I know that Mark Day really likes the blue 10 band MXR EQ, even better than a Boss GE-10.

Yeah, I know about the "staged" aspect. They were obviously playing/practicing in this staged aspect. If you were "really" staging a picture would you mic multiple cabs? If it were staged, why even have the mics plugged it. They could have been tracking something. Why go to the effort of setting up all those cabs, amps, cables, even a random EQ for a "staged" picture.

Sure the trash and beer cans are staged but I would argue that Ed probably wouldn't go through the big effort to put his entire rig together for just pictures, he would want it to sound the way he wanted it to sound if he was setting up for any reason.
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Re: blue box mxr 6 band eq vs. newer mxr 6 band

Post by dirtycooter » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:03 pm

I had the newer dark charcoal colored one. Those blue 10bands are kinda hard to find.
Even Dimebag used the blue 6 band though in a article I read. He even talked about the noise.
it was only for lead solo bump according to what he said.
So the 6band has mojo and not just for vh. I also thought the boss ge7 like efraser68 uses has got something good goin on too.

I have to laugh when nitro said "you will never get that much gain from a stock plexi"
The Suhr SL68 and Efraser68 made him eat his words :lol:

Also about the staged photos in the studio-I am hopin the interview recently at Sunset will shed more light in all this.
But he stated Dave did his vocals in a side room. Isolated.

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Re: blue box mxr 6 band eq vs. newer mxr 6 band

Post by rgorke » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:21 am

The Boss GE & does have some mojo...

I'm not suggesting that VH2 was recorded the way the pictures are. I would argue they may have been set up like that for recording, either just finishing or rehearsing or what have you. Someone suggests taking some photos (Zloz or others). Having Dave in another room doesn't make for a very good picture. They may have said, "lets throw some trash on the ground and make a mess in here to make it look like you guys have been working for days and nights" or words to that affect. I can't imagine lugging all the gear into an active busy studio, setting it up with mics, etc just for a few snap shots. They had to have been "working" on stuff and the "staging" was the trash and Dave and Mike singing.

No proof just a little common sense thinking.... :scratch:
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Re: blue box mxr 6 band eq vs. newer mxr 6 band

Post by guitar007 » Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:49 pm

rgorke wrote:The Boss GE & does have some mojo...

I'm not suggesting that VH2 was recorded the way the pictures are. I would argue they may have been set up like that for recording, either just finishing or rehearsing or what have you. Someone suggests taking some photos (Zloz or others). Having Dave in another room doesn't make for a very good picture. They may have said, "lets throw some trash on the ground and make a mess in here to make it look like you guys have been working for days and nights" or words to that affect. I can't imagine lugging all the gear into an active busy studio, setting it up with mics, etc just for a few snap shots. They had to have been "working" on stuff and the "staging" was the trash and Dave and Mike singing.

No proof just a little common sense thinking.... :scratch:
This is how I interpreted the "staging" comment as well.
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Re: blue box mxr 6 band eq vs. newer mxr 6 band

Post by dirtycooter » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:43 pm

Seen there is a mod by changin op amps for quieter less noise on the mxr 10 band current version and the boss ge7. Theres the analog man mod on the ge7 and griffin fx for the mxr. It seemed to make signifigant noise reduction. Theres a couple youtube vids on the mxr 10band. I find this interesting

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Post by rockgod212 » Tue May 12, 2015 5:32 pm

does anybody have a schematic or diagram for this pedal to make it true bypass with a 3p3t switch, I will never get rid of it, so im not worried about de-value issues. I don't really want to use a loop with it if I can avoid it.
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Post by MrBeasty » Wed May 13, 2015 9:51 am

guitar007 wrote:
rgorke wrote:The Boss GE & does have some mojo...

I'm not suggesting that VH2 was recorded the way the pictures are. I would argue they may have been set up like that for recording, either just finishing or rehearsing or what have you. Someone suggests taking some photos (Zloz or others). Having Dave in another room doesn't make for a very good picture. They may have said, "lets throw some trash on the ground and make a mess in here to make it look like you guys have been working for days and nights" or words to that affect. I can't imagine lugging all the gear into an active busy studio, setting it up with mics, etc just for a few snap shots. They had to have been "working" on stuff and the "staging" was the trash and Dave and Mike singing.

No proof just a little common sense thinking.... :scratch:
This is how I interpreted the "staging" comment as well.
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Re: blue box mxr 6 band eq vs. newer mxr 6 band

Post by rgorke » Wed May 13, 2015 12:27 pm

rockgod212 wrote:does anybody have a schematic or diagram for this pedal to make it true bypass with a 3p3t switch, I will never get rid of it, so im not worried about de-value issues. I don't really want to use a loop with it if I can avoid it.
I did it to mine. I will see if I can get a picture.
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Post by rockgod212 » Wed May 13, 2015 4:35 pm

that would be great, thanx.
rgorke wrote:
rockgod212 wrote:does anybody have a schematic or diagram for this pedal to make it true bypass with a 3p3t switch, I will never get rid of it, so im not worried about de-value issues. I don't really want to use a loop with it if I can avoid it.
I did it to mine. I will see if I can get a picture.
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Post by rockgod212 » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:32 pm

hey, do you happen to have that diagram for modding it to true bypass. im about to do the mod and I have it drawn out a bit, but im curious as to how to wire the led in the circuit? do I just wire the led in parallel with the 9v power in for the pedal itself or does it go in series with the 9v input on the board? any help would be great.
rgorke wrote:
rockgod212 wrote:does anybody have a schematic or diagram for this pedal to make it true bypass with a 3p3t switch, I will never get rid of it, so im not worried about de-value issues. I don't really want to use a loop with it if I can avoid it.
I did it to mine. I will see if I can get a picture.
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Re: blue box mxr 6 band eq vs. newer mxr 6 band

Post by dirtycooter » Sat Jun 06, 2015 5:35 pm

I got my modded griffin fx 6 band in there workin now. I tried it with this new pickup swap again.
Before it seemed to wanna clip all the time with the DSD. It would dip out and down and clip because it was getting overdriven. With the custom its fine though which I feel is odd. They are supposed to be about the same smack on the output.
Really likin this pedal alot now as I can use it how it was supposed to work now. I was havin a real case of the ass with this thing and was pissed I bought it but after yesterday and today I totally changed my mind on it. It offers up a pretty transparent and subtle but deadly boost. In just the right spot.
Kinda like goin to another stage of gain almost.
I made that clip plugged into the high input of the peacemaker straight in. I have since found the low input works much better-has more of that clean and dirty together feel instead of all dirty. It changed for the better with the pickup swap. This pedal takes the low input up toward the high input gain level but actually sounds better this route than just using the high input. As it retains more of the cleaner plexi character and just scooches it up with just the right amount of horsepower. And again its really really a clean e.q. now so none of the hiss issues. You know like the super snake sound on the suhr vid demo of the 68? No where near that kinda hiss. Still kinda can tap on the pedal and get microphonic noises but thats only when you tap on it.
I feel kinda like its goin from the less gainy more layed back parts on VH1 with it off and movin toward Atomic Punk levels of fry with it on. Its really workin well with this pickup. Its almost like the e.q. and pickup compliment each other in about the right frequency or somethin. So its swingin through the jungle like a happy monkey now and I really am diggin it.
Things slowly finally fallin in place and I am getting a better tone now than I ever have and some of my questiins seem to have some answers now. But I can say now if you get one of these griffin e.q.'s? Be wary of what your feeding it. It seems picky but its good when you feed it somethin nice and worth a look. It didn't really seem to get along well with my pv wolf pickup either so well. But not havin the hiss is awesome

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Re: blue box mxr 6 band eq vs. newer mxr 6 band

Post by rockgod212 » Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:31 pm

never mind, I modded it to true bypass. works good.
rockgod212 wrote:hey, do you happen to have that diagram for modding it to true bypass. im about to do the mod and I have it drawn out a bit, but im curious as to how to wire the led in the circuit? do I just wire the led in parallel with the 9v power in for the pedal itself or does it go in series with the 9v input on the board? any help would be great.
rgorke wrote:
rockgod212 wrote:does anybody have a schematic or diagram for this pedal to make it true bypass with a 3p3t switch, I will never get rid of it, so im not worried about de-value issues. I don't really want to use a loop with it if I can avoid it.
I did it to mine. I will see if I can get a picture.
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Re: blue box mxr 6 band eq vs. newer mxr 6 band

Post by rgorke » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:19 am

Sorry I've been swamped with a house move.

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