New Amp Specs with clips

For all things to build the brown sound

Moderators: VelvetGeorge, RACKSYSTEMS

Post Reply
User avatar
rgorke
Senior Member
Posts: 4509
Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:37 am
Just the numbers in order: 13492
Location: Drought Ravaged SoCal

New Amp Specs with clips

Post by rgorke » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:08 pm

Well, not totally new. I took out the PPIMV and put in a 47k for the NFB on the 16 ohm (actually on the speaker tap with the selector at 16 ohms).

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12216793" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12216794" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here are clips before the changes...

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12216806" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12216803" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thoughts? ( just trying to keep up with Ralle....)
"If you make a mistake, do it twice and smile and let people think you meant it." Jan Van Halen.

stef
Senior Member
Posts: 1407
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:05 pm
Just the numbers in order: 7

Re: New Amp Specs with clips

Post by stef » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:31 pm

I like "before" -more hair, brighter and louder

jnew
Senior Member
Posts: 1580
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:34 am
Just the numbers in order: 13492
Location: Front Row Seat From the Outer Continental Shelf

Re: New Amp Specs with clips

Post by jnew » Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:28 pm

I'd have to agree although I'm done with 2203/4 front ends and ppimv's. :what:
________________________________
I SEE THINGS BETTER, WHEN I LISTEN


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... ID=1214336" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

User avatar
Strat78
Senior Member
Posts: 3093
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:38 pm
Just the numbers in order: 13492
Location: though I'm standing still, I'm in a moving place.

Re: New Amp Specs with clips

Post by Strat78 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:53 am

The new clips are much better. I'm getting to the point that I can hardly contain my dislike of the ppimv or the mod5 tone; mud and screech.

User avatar
rgorke
Senior Member
Posts: 4509
Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:37 am
Just the numbers in order: 13492
Location: Drought Ravaged SoCal

Re: New Amp Specs with clips

Post by rgorke » Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:15 am

Strat78 wrote:The new clips are much better. I'm getting to the point that I can hardly contain my dislike of the ppimv or the mod5 tone; mud and screech.
Thanks, and with a good attenuator, the PPIMW and Mod5 are somewhat irrelevant.
"If you make a mistake, do it twice and smile and let people think you meant it." Jan Van Halen.

User avatar
rgorke
Senior Member
Posts: 4509
Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:37 am
Just the numbers in order: 13492
Location: Drought Ravaged SoCal

Re: New Amp Specs with clips

Post by rgorke » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:58 am

Here are two new clips with the same set up except with some tweaks. They both are run through an Echoplex and one I added some MXR 6 band eq for some comparison.

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12293266" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=12293271" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"If you make a mistake, do it twice and smile and let people think you meant it." Jan Van Halen.

Michael R/T
Senior Member
Posts: 293
Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:21 pm
Just the numbers in order: 13492

Re: New Amp Specs with clips

Post by Michael R/T » Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:17 pm

I'm enjoying all your clips, they all sound great to me. :thumbsup:

User avatar
Tone Slinger
Senior Member
Posts: 6520
Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:31 am

Re: New Amp Specs with clips

Post by Tone Slinger » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:02 pm

In all honesty I cant really tell any difference between any of these much.I hear the tone of 'Mark', ya know ? I'd much rather hear you and your amp via a cellphone mic or something :thumbsup: .
Rip Ben Wise (StuntDouble) & Mark Abrahamian (Rockstah)

jnew
Senior Member
Posts: 1580
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:34 am
Just the numbers in order: 13492
Location: Front Row Seat From the Outer Continental Shelf

Re: New Amp Specs with clips

Post by jnew » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:41 pm

It sounds damn good. I think I can hear how the MXR hits the echoplex a little harder, thus pronouncing the delay a smidge more. The MXR is in front of the Echoplex, right? 8)
________________________________
I SEE THINGS BETTER, WHEN I LISTEN


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... ID=1214336" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

User avatar
jof006
Senior Member
Posts: 78
Joined: Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:43 pm
Just the numbers in order: 13492
Location: Wales

Re: New Amp Specs with clips

Post by jof006 » Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:04 am

They all sound good to me.
Are you slaving there?
What's the full spec.?

User avatar
Tone Slinger
Senior Member
Posts: 6520
Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:31 am

Re: New Amp Specs with clips

Post by Tone Slinger » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:11 am

It's Mark Abrahamian (AKA 'Rockstah'). Do to that clip what you want, it aint gonna sound no better or worse :wink: .
Rip Ben Wise (StuntDouble) & Mark Abrahamian (Rockstah)

User avatar
rgorke
Senior Member
Posts: 4509
Joined: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:37 am
Just the numbers in order: 13492
Location: Drought Ravaged SoCal

Re: New Amp Specs with clips

Post by rgorke » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:51 am

jof006 wrote:They all sound good to me.
Are you slaving there?
What's the full spec.?

No slaving. The set up is using Mark's DI track and putting it through my signal chain -> MXR 6 Band (on or off with truebypass) - > echoplex -> upper left hole of amp. I am also using an attenuator. It is above bedroom volume but not much. SM57 -> Digi 002r -> Garageband.

I only use Mark's DI to test changes that I make in the spec. This way, I remove variables of the guitar, tuning, playing, etc and can try to hear what exactly the change in amp spec is doing. Sometimes I feel like my hearing plays tricks on me until I go back and listen carefully to clips. It is just a tool for fine tuning the amp.

For example, I can hear how the PPIMV was impacting the tone even though the MV was dimed, it was still having an affect. Similar to George's clips with the push pull bright cap. When the volume is wide open it "shouldn't" have an affect, but it seems to.

This spec is pretty close to stock plexi with a 0.047 for the mid cap.
"If you make a mistake, do it twice and smile and let people think you meant it." Jan Van Halen.

stef
Senior Member
Posts: 1407
Joined: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:05 pm
Just the numbers in order: 7

Re: New Amp Specs with clips

Post by stef » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:39 am

rgorke wrote:
jof006 wrote:They all sound good to me.
Are you slaving there?
What's the full spec.?

For example, I can hear how the PPIMV was impacting the tone even though the MV was dimed, it was still having an affect.

This spec is pretty close to stock plexi with a 0.047 for the mid cap.
I agree, finally removed the PPIMV and now it's fuller sounding. My amp never sounded better, straight 12000 spec with pihers, iskras and mustards...
Roger, what does the 47 mid cap do, in comparison to the stock 22nf :?:

Post Reply