VINTAGE 30's

[beaulieu]

I jsut traded 4 77 G12M 25 watt BlackBacks,444 cone 8ohm for a quad of 16ohm Vintage 30's.I also got 100 Bucks in the trade.Do you guys like the Vintage 30's at all? I read where they were "close" to the Heritage 30's(RI HW cab speakers) What your guys opinions on these Vintage 30's Brite and Harsh?? Thanks

[worldoftone]

I like them for more bottom end and bass response. V30s sound great in Fender open-back combos as well. They are 60-watt speakers IIRC.

- WOT

[demonufo]

I despise them, but owning both vintage 30's (you should always keep some things you hate, just to remind yourself!!! ) and heritage 30's, I would have to say that they are absolutely f' all alike, in any way, shape or form.
Bit of contention as to whether they are 60 or 70watt speakers.

[Woolly Mammoth]

I wish I was the guy that traded Vintage 30's for some G12M's !!!
The only way I would have not made that trade was if the G12M's were blown.

DAVE

[62sg]

no fan here of the V30 for most older style [plexi] circuits....way too dominating mid range that is almost impossible to get out with many amps. I'da kept the blackbax, too, in a heartbeat..assuming they were in original / very good condition.

They're not close to the Her 30 IMO...the 30's would have given way more clean headroom without the mid spike.

[stef]

I don't like them with marshalls because: are too loud, don't sound good and hurt my ears with the spike

[Doug H]

I had one in my 50w combo for a while, I liked it well enough. I thought it had a loose bottom end which was a good thing for my combo.

[beaulieu]

Maybe I will trade the guy back and get my BlackBacks back.He probally don't like them anyway!!

[fillmore nyc]

I jsut traded 4 77 G12M 25 watt BlackBacks,444 cone 8ohm for a quad of 16ohm Vintage 30's.I also got 100 Bucks in the trade.Do you guys like the Vintage 30's at all? I read where they were "close" to the Heritage 30's(RI HW cab speakers) What your guys opinions on these Vintage 30's Brite and Harsh?? Thanks

Maybe I will trade the guy back and get my BlackBacks back.He probally don't like them anyway!!

[Dom]

I jsut traded 4 77 G12M 25 watt BlackBacks,444 cone 8ohm for a quad of 16ohm Vintage 30's.I also got 100 Bucks in the trade.Do you guys like the Vintage 30's at all? I read where they were "close" to the Heritage 30's(RI HW cab speakers) What your guys opinions on these Vintage 30's Brite and Harsh?? Thanks

Maybe I will trade the guy back and get my BlackBacks back.He probally don't like them anyway!!

I don't like them in 4x12" cabs except if they're in a tall straight Blackstar Artisan cab which smoothes out a lot of the spikey highmids.
And in the Artisan cab it isn't as stiff sounding as in an Engl or Mesa cab.
But they're pretty ok in open back combos.

[demonufo]

But they're pretty ok in open back combos.

Funny you should say that.

It's well noted that I hate both the Vintage 30 and the G12M-70 with a vengeance.

It's alse well noted that I use them both together in a 4104 combo. I didn't want to remove both the original speakers, and they marry up strangely well. Not brilliant, but OK.

[Mats A]

Well they are much better sounding than the G12T 75W anyway.

[fillmore nyc]

Well they are much better sounding than the G12T 75W anyway.

Maybe with newer speakers, but I gotta disagree, at least where older G12T75's are concerned.
I picked up an old Marshall 4-12 at a yard sale years ago. It was one of THE best sounding cabs I've ever heard. Opened it up... loaded with G12T75's. I must say I was suprised as hell, but everyone that heard it said that that cab was awesome.
Maybe the speakers were super broken in, I dunno, but that cab fukkin' killed. I've never heard a V30 that was even close to that tone.

[jcmjmp]

Well they are much better sounding than the G12T 75W anyway.

Maybe with newer speakers, but I gotta disagree, at least where older G12T75's are concerned.
I picked up an old Marshall 4-12 at a yard sale years ago. It was one of THE best sounding cabs I've ever heard. Opened it up... loaded with G12T75's. I must say I was suprised as hell, but everyone that heard it said that that cab was awesome.
Maybe the speakers were super broken in, I dunno, but that cab fukkin' killed. I've never heard a V30 that was even close to that tone.

A nicely used and broken in G12T-75 actually sounds pretty good if you ask me.

V30s are not for everyone and they don't work well with just any amp.

[Mats A]

I think the 75W sounds more trebly and kind of scooped. Less mids.