Best 'current' 25 watter's ?

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Best 'current' 25 watter's ?

Post by Tone Slinger » Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:02 am

I was wondering about this, but since I cant just go down to 'ol GC and actually try them out (the new Metal kid's just dont likem, supply and demand huh :roll: ), I was wondering what you all think of the new versions (Celestion, Weber, Heritage, etc)

I had a '90 Marshall slant cab with the british reissue green backs. That cab was awesome, but I sold it years ago. I tried a reissue cab 7 years ago and it was in the ball park, but definitly not front row seats, as I remember my '90 cab as being.

I was really digging the rgalpin clip's with those Stan spec Weber's.


Whats the word on all these current production 25's ?
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Re: Best 'current' 25 watter's ?

Post by 908ssp » Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:15 am

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Re: Best 'current' 25 watter's ?

Post by stef » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:18 pm

I like g12C..especially after I rewired them in series/parallel

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Re: Best 'current' 25 watter's ?

Post by basile865 » Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:41 pm

I played the vintage modern cab with a 1987 head recently. I think it sounded pretty good man.

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Post by OdgeUK » Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:07 am

Yup, the Vintage Modern cab has the G12C. A Greenback reissue based on a 1960's reference Greenback at Marshall which was considered to be closer to the Hendrix sound for the Super100 Jimi Marshall Reissue. The British made version is in the Jimi Hendrix reissue cabs, the Chinese version is in the Vintage Modern. There is supposedly no difference between the two except that the Chinese ones have spade connectors and the British ones have period correct solder tags.

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Re: Best 'current' 25 watter's ?

Post by stef » Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:27 pm

Tone Slinger wrote: I had a '90 Marshall slant cab with the british reissue green backs. That cab was awesome, but I sold it years ago. I tried a reissue cab 7 years ago and it was in the ball park, but definitly not front row seats, as I remember my '90 cab as being.
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Hi Everyone,

I was talking with Rick Skillman of Celestion and he asked me to post my findings here - I'm happy to do it.

I've been kind of bummed because my 90's English Greenbacks are pretty old and they're starting to get worn out. I've listened to just about everything out there during the last six months, and haven't been able to find speakers which sound like mine. I have Chinese Greenbacks in my live cabinet, which I've taken out and put in my recording cab to compare to the English ones - contrary to popular opinion, my Chinese Greenbacks don't sound as good.

I've read posts about some people's A/B testing between these two speakers. I don't want to sound like a know it all, but my experience is that it's difficult to hear subtile differences in gear when you have to stop, plug in something else, then play again. I have problems hearing subtile differences in gear just because I'm playing at the time. What I've learned is that recording is the best way to do it. I like to switch between tracks with one press of a button - then I can really pay attention to detail. I have a learned "solo" which I play over a bass & drums track, being careful to pick in the exact same place on the string, all knobs on the guitar & amp the same, mic placement, etc. I'm really anal about it. I can definitely say that my English Greenbacks sound better than my Chinese ones - until now.

Celestion just sent me some brand new Chinese Greenbacks, and after breaking them in for 24 hours, I'm unable to hear any difference between them and my English ones. As happy as I am about it, I was also confused and curious about why. Rick told me that he chalks it up to ten years of experience at the factory in China. My Greenbacks which didn't sound as good were from the factory's first couple years of operation.

So, I just want to say that if you're thinking about buying Greenbacks, they sound as good as ever. The Heritage Greenback is a good speaker also, but I prefer the regular one because it's a bit darker and has more bass.

Thanks for reading,

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Re: Best 'current' 25 watter's ?

Post by dnatronic » Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:25 am

What are the cone codes on these new Chinese Celestions?

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Re: Best 'current' 25 watter's ?

Post by dnatronic » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:26 pm

The reason I ask is I was at NAMM in January and I noticed at the Celestion booth the regular Greenbacks on display had 53H1777 cones which according to Dunxb (former Celestion engineer) is the same cone as the early 90's 6402 cones.

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Re: Best 'current' 25 watter's ?

Post by Scumback Speakers » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:58 pm

Same cone tool perhaps (not sure on that either, actually, D did mention a new tool), different paper on the 53H1777's. I have them both and compared them. Not the same.
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Re: Best 'current' 25 watter's ?

Post by Roe » Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:16 am

the only bad thing I've heard about the M75s is that they are a little too smooth for some tastes or applications
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