Well, Im new but gonna chime in on this one...the reason they dont see 'IT' is because 'IT' doesn't matter at all to folks that can't afford / dont want or whatever reason can't get there hands on the upper class amps...and most of the time the folks that CAN afford the good stuff suck on guitar anyways...lol...bmf5150 wrote:i couldnt agree more....we dont manufacture anything and if you look at the goverment labor statistics on manufacturing is scary!!through 2016 its a steep slope down..MarkCameron wrote:jcmjmp wrote:What I hate about this Bugera crap is that its made in China with little regard to the environment, the employees and general quality. These are throw away amps.
Every time we buy this kind of stuff, we are cheating ourselves, our values, our morals, our communities, our cities and our country. None of these cheap labour or manufacturing processes are sustainable and we as consumers, we have to act responsibly. Its just another POS product than a lot of people will gobble up. "Ohhh... its so cheap and sounds better than any Marshall Plexi". Yeah, right.
Just like I refuse to shop at Walmart, I refuse to buy Behringer gear that has been simply copying designs by Mackie and have them made in China in sweatshops... Argghghg! Why don't people see this ?
My PA system is QSC amps, DBX EQ, Alesis Mixer, Peavey Speakers and Yamaha Club series speakers. All made in the USA with the exception of DBX and Alesis, but they're still orginal American design with quality, innovation and durability in mind. When a slider broker off on my DBX, I got a replacement in 48hrs. You think I'd get the same service from Behringer? Nope.
Will I pay more to support companies that have worked hard to come up with innovative products and have the desire to produce quality products and have customer service in mind? Yes. My DBX eq was twice the price of the Behringer. Some people think that's just plain stupid and they'd buy the Behringer. I say F**K Behringer. I hope they go down... but they won't, because people want to save a buck. Will I pay less to buy crap? No.
In the end, its not always about saving a few bucks.
I could go on and on...
But we should be more mad about the trade agreements that make it this way and that is our own fault not theirs. This stuff people forget....and I dont see it on the news....but ...to me......this is very imporntent for the US to be a strong country...we dont make much here anymore...and needs to be put in people faces.....but most people will always buy cheep if they can.
on an other note......why does the message body box jump around when trying to reply to a thred.
I know from experience as I play out almost every weekend and find it easy to CRUSH the my other guitarist sound with an UN-MODDED B-52 at100...He plays a Marshall full stack Vintage Modern...his amp cuts great for rhythm guitar and I love its sound but it CANT get the Steve Vai SUSTAIN and long lasting divebomb/harmonics Im getting...on the B52...
Now, the point is Im using two cheaper amps ...the BUGERA 1990 for Rhythm (for cutting thru the mix like a Marshall) and Thanks to Bugera it works great...
And for the price its nice to know I can find them cheap anytime and not invest a small fortune to sound great...
Besides all that...when the INFINIUM Bugera's come out...with stock RR1 mods, and stock PPIMV built in Marshalls may become fairly extinct...to working musicians anyways ...not the home player's/modders....just my opinion...and an affordable one...at that...
p.s. I dont know what happens at on the video from BUGERA'S assembly line video before the area they showed on YOUTUBE but it looks very nice and clean there while they are checking the amps on the line...go check it out for fun...
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